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A lot of people I talk to, including Japanese and non-Japanese, claim that ryokans are expensive.

Once, when I discussed this further and said that some places that I've been to describe themselves as ryokans and aren't expensive, the other person speculated that maybe it's not a real ryokan, and doesn't offer the same services a "real" ryokan does.

I found this very plausible, and I joked that maybe just offering a futon on a tatami mat would be enough to fool me into thinking that it's Japanese-style accommodation.

Examples of inexpensive (at least to me) ryokans include Kumagai Ryokan in Morioka and Kimi ryokan in Ikebukuro.

I've heard of minshukus, but none of the places I've gone to have called themselves that.

Are inexpensive ryokans inauthentic?

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I'm going to go against the flow and state that cheap "ryokan" are, indeed, inauthentic -- and there's in fact a very specific species of cheap budget hotel that labels itself "ryokan" precisely to attract foreign travellers, while being nothing of the sort. Kyoto has some egregious examples, eg. the "Backpackers' Ryokan" Budget Inn and its evil twin the "Capsule Ryokan":

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The Japanese definition of a ryokan is actually really simple: it's an inn that serves you dinner in your own room, usually course by course with maids fluttering about in kimonos, and that dinner will be spectacular (and expensive). If the dinner is eaten together in a common dining room, it's a hotel or a minshuku (民宿), lit. "people's lodging"; and if they don't even offer dinner, then it's a doya (ドヤ) flophouse for day laborers, or its modern incarnation the backpacker hostel. (Obviously reality is not quite as sharply delimited as this; for example, quite a few non-high-end ryokan serve dinner in private cubicles within what's actually a cunningly disguised restaurant.) Nonetheless, those are the expected definitions of the terms, and seeing a ¥3000/night flophouse calling itself a ryokan is bit like seeing a Motel 8 rebrand itself as the Palace Deluxe Grand Hotel -- the new nameplate won't fool anybody who checks in for long.

The difference between the three may seem small, and you're probably wondering why not just book a cheap place and go out for a nice dinner then, but the idea is that the ryokan itself is the experience: you and yours stay inside from check-in to check-out, enjoying the food, the baths, the art and the tranquility. A minshuku is a more social experience, with people eating and chatting together, and a doya/hostel is just a place to crash for the night.

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Also note that I didn't say "tatami" anywhere: while overseas visitors usually equate ryokans with tatami mats, this is not always the case, and an increasing number now have Western-style beds (at least in some rooms) to cater for older people who have trouble sleeping on the floor. For example, here's one of the Hōgetsu rooms at Tagaya, a famous ryokan in Wakura Onsen:

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Note the little tatami alcove in the back with cushioned seats and tea equipment. This type of half-and-half wayōshitsu (和洋室), lit. "Japanese and Western room", with Western bedding but some Japanese-style space is also quite common.

All that said, it's a nice only-in-Japan experience to sleep on tatami mats, and so if you can't swing the ¥10,000+ per head it usually costs for the full-on ryokan experience, then a pseudo-ryokan is better than nothing -- but a real ryokan it's not.

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    I am confused: You say that Tatami are only a foreigners perspective item in a ryokan, but then you say in the last paragraph that without sleeping on one, it's not a real one?
    – uncovery
    Commented Jun 21, 2013 at 4:43
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    The Japanese Wikipedia page on ryokan does not agree with this narrow definition. Commented Jun 21, 2013 at 7:43
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    @uncovery: Not quite sure how you're getting that impression: I'm saying that a) ryokan rooms aren't always tatami, and b) sleeping on tatami is fun even in a "fake" ryokan that doesn't offer the rest of the experience. Commented Jun 21, 2013 at 12:41
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    @Michael: The Japanese WP article talks about the legal definition of ryokan, which covers accommodations of all kinds, including hotels and minshuku. Regarding "actual" ryokan (日本社会において和の風雅を感じさせてくれる場所), while 要件ではなく、例外もある, 通常は宿泊料金が食事代込みとなっており...接客係は、食事の提供などを客室で行う。 Commented Jun 21, 2013 at 12:52
  • Hey - this is a spectacular explanation. I never realised a "ryokan" means elite private dining in your own room. Really the usual Western understanding is ... "wrong". Thanks so much for this post!!!!!
    – Fattie
    Commented Sep 13, 2016 at 9:07
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I've stayed in a ton of inexpensive ryokans in the countryside. A low-end "ryokan" is basically the same thing as a "minshuku". I certainly wouldn't call them inauthentic. Indeed, sometimes the tatami and bedding were frayed, and the bath was not fancy -- but the service and food were good even at the cheap places.

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No. There are just two rather different types of accomodations that serve different functions and markets but both call themselves "ryokan" - and fully justifiably so, since the word just means "inn", and according to Japanese hotel laws, if the rooms are Japanese style, it can call itself a ryokan (the details are considerably more complex, and there are sub-categories).

On the one hand, you have ryokan that provide simple accomodations for travellers going somewhere.

On the other hand, you have ryokan that are, themselves, a place people go to in order to sleep in a luxurious room, eat fancy food and see beautiful gardens and landscapes (and, often, take a bath in a hot spring in the middle of those). Obviously, these are far more expensive.

But by no means is the first type inauthentic. In fact, it is arguably more authentic, since that's all that such accomodations were originally: places for travellers to sleep (though of course some catered to much richer travellers than others). The second type is a more recent development, probably grown out of traditional ryokan in remote places adapting to increasingly fast transport options: when people can go from city A to city B without having to stop in the countryside C in between, then the inn at C has to find another way to attract paying guests if it is to survive.

Update: Still, jpatokal has a point: when a Japanese person hears "ryokan", the first thing they think of is the high-end onsen ryokan that they may sometimes treat themselves to as a vacation. But that definitely does not mean that anything else calling itself ryokan is a fake designed to rip off foreign tourists who don't know better.

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    This is, in a nutshell, wrong. Ryokan have always been at the upper end of the Japanese accommodation spectrum, there have been and are other cheaper places to stay. Japan's best ryokan have been at it for a very long time: the two top contenders, Hoshi and Nishiyama Onsen Keiunkan, date from 717 and 705 respectively. (No, those dates are not missing digits.) Commented Jun 21, 2013 at 1:40
  • @jpatokal: AFAIK the names for the various types of accomodations used to be completely different anyway and "Ryokan" is basically a post-WW2 category. Commented Jun 21, 2013 at 7:57
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On top of what Michael said, there is only to add that this myth that Ryokans must be expensive comes from the issue that Ryokans are normally not as space-effective as modern hotels - and therefore more expensive when it comes to downtown locations.

The maintenance costs for wooden build type of the room, the tatamis and the "live in your own home" style service level is not manageable for a 300-room sized Ryokan - next to the fact that a 15-floor building is not really what you would call traditional Japanese architecture. But if you want to pay the real estate costs (i.e. inheritance tax on property, etc) for a downtown location such as the famous Tawaraya inn in the middle of Kyoto, you will have a certain pressure to either be expensive or convert into a western style hotel where you have a much higher sqm-efficiency to justify the investment. The cheaper ones left in Tokyo can most probably survive because they are so rare and therefore ARE popular with tourists, have a high occupancy and are able to pay their bills.

Therefore, cheaper ryokans can be much more found in country-side locations and generally not so crowded places than downtown Tokyo or in the heart of a tourist destination. They can still offer the environment, but do not have the pressure to make room for a 70-floor high office tower.

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  • I don't think this is right. I've stayed in several inner-city ryokan. They were all cheap and not at all tourist attractions. The rooms were small (futon==no extra space for a bed) and had shared bathrooms - quite space-efficient. Of course they were not in top locations (i.e. a 5 or 10 minute walk away from the subway station instead of next to it) and the buildings rather old. Commented Jun 20, 2013 at 19:31
  • @MichaelBorgwardt perhaps the real estate for the ryokans were bought before it became expensive.
    – Golden Cuy
    Commented Jun 20, 2013 at 23:29
  • @AndrewGrimm that does not matter, and rather makes the problem worse. If the building is private, you need a VERY rich family to hand it to the next generation due to the inheritance tax. If it's run by a company, other uses will be more profitable.
    – uncovery
    Commented Jun 21, 2013 at 4:36
  • @MichaelBorgwardt Please do not take my text as a 100% absolute statement. There are exceptions of course. What I described is rather a general issue that contributed to the fact that there are hardly any Roykans anymore in Tokyo. Also, Tourist attraction is not mean derogatory, but rather in the sense of "popular with tourists due to the fact that there are so few in a reasonable price range, and therefore can survive".
    – uncovery
    Commented Jun 21, 2013 at 4:39

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