I'm an Australian Citizen and need to travel to enter the USA for 3 days en route to another country. I have had an ESTA for traveling to USA in the past (previous to my conditional LPR) and have never been denied any travel visa anywhere in the world and I travel frequently. However, my temporary/conditional LPR/green card expired after I left the USA over 2 years ago, and I have not returned since or renewed it -- I could not do so anyway, due to not meeting the conditions to be able to keep it current (living outside USA for more than 2 years).

I'm concerned. Is that likely to hinder the approval of a new ESTA application so I can travel through the USA for a few days?

In the ESTA question "Do you have a passport or national ID for travel by any other country? Whats does it mean by 'any other country'? Is that any other country other than USA or does it include the USA?

And was my conditional LPR/green card ever classed as a National ID issued for TRAVEL by any other country?

  • were you able to get your ESTA approved after filing i407? I have the same situation as you did. Thank you.
    – Javier
    Commented Mar 9, 2022 at 7:47

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Because the ESTA application question appears just after the applicant has entered their passport info — which passport must be from other than the US — the phrase "any other country" means any country other than the country which issued the applicant's passport.

Unless someone weighs in on having had this exact experience, no one can guess if you'll be granted ESTA status or not. And even if someone has had that experience, there may be some difference in personal circumstances or travel history such that their "I got ESTA" might not apply to you.

Your second question about a Green Card being seen as a "National ID" was answered by @phoog earlier here.

  • Thanks @David. It certainly makes better sense now. I wanted to make sure I do things the correct way to avoid any complications. I am still a little unclear if there was anything else I should know or I am required to do following the expiry of my conditional LPR before applying for an ESTA? There has never been any problems or issues surrounding my old LPR other than I left the USA when it was valid and did not return and it expired before I could remove the conditional part. Based on that would you have any further insight whether that is likely to hinder my ESTA application to the USA?
    – Lilly
    Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 20:30
  • @David I always assumed "any other country" meant any other apart from the country of your citizenship.
    – kiradotee
    Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 20:47
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    @kiradotee you are correct. The question "have you been issued a passport [etc.] by any other country" follows immediately after the applicant enters the details of the passport being used in the ESTA application. It is therefore a natural conclusion that "other country" means any country other than the one that issued that passport (which will include other country or countries of citizenship for people with multiple citizenships). In fact, for a former US citizen, the phrase "any other country" would indeed include the US.
    – phoog
    Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 21:14
  • @phoog Based on that then is an expired temporary LPR or greencard actually classified as a National ID issued 'for travel'? From your answer on a previous thread it would suggest that it is not. So I am still not sure whether it is crucial to put in my expired LPR number in this instance? And if I do or do not, how it might effect my ESTA applicaton?
    – Lilly
    Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 21:40
  • @Lilly a "national ID" is generally a non-passport document issued to a citizen of the country issuing the ID. So no, a green card is not a "national ID" in that sense. But like I said in my answer to your other question, it won't hurt anything if you mention it. I don't think your decision to mention or not mention your green card in response to this question will have much impact on the outcome.
    – phoog
    Commented Oct 8, 2019 at 21:49

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