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I am a visiting student from China. I have not obtained my permit yet. My basic information of the D visa:

type: D (Formation Théorique) valid from 06/02/2024 to 05/05/2024 MULT Duration of Stay: XXX

I have found on the website of the Immigration Office of Norway that they use entry visa/long-term visa (for people staying over 90 days) to distinguish between different D visas. While having a long term visa you can travel to other Schengen countries, with an entry visa you can only transit through other Schengen countries. In the website of Switzerland, they call the D visa in Switzerland long-term national visa, but the validity they offered was exactly 90 days (from 06/02/2024 to 05/05/2024).

Will it be a problem for me to use the visa for short-time tourism in Norway?

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    Can you share a link to where you saw that distinction? The vast majority of D visas allow you to visit any Schengen country.
    – jcaron
    Commented Mar 22 at 15:51
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    @jcaron Actually any long-stay visas does, according to the Schengen Borders Code (it's for residence permit that there is a convoluted definition and some exceptions). And indeed the vast majority of D visas do allow you to visit any Schengen country because they are long-stay visas, which is why the OP is right to be unsure about this particular visa.
    – Relaxed
    Commented Mar 22 at 21:49
  • The term 'long/short-stay' is based on the maximum length that the visa type allows. short: up to 90 days ; long: up to 1 year. A type D visa is a long-stay visa that is also called a National visa. Commented Mar 22 at 22:43
  • @MarkJohnson This seems to contradict some of your other comments. Are all type D visas long-stay visas or not? Can a type D visa be issued for stays under 90 days? What counts as a long stay?
    – Relaxed
    Commented Mar 23 at 14:08

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In the website of Switzerland, they call the D visa in Switzerland long-term national visa, but the validity they offered was exactly 90 days (from 06/02/2024 to 05/05/2024).

That seems very dumb. A short stay in the Schengen system is a stay of 90 days or less (originally 3 months). I don't think that's explicitly defined anywhere but that's the threshold used all over the place and it necessarily follows that a long stay is a stay for more than 90 days. Issuing a visa that falls just under that threshold is utterly confusing and calling it a “long-term” visa achieves nothing (it's up to the Schengen acquis/EU law, not to each individual country, to define what's long term).

The important thing from Norway's perspective is that the visa exemption when crossing an external border defined in article 6(1)(b) only applies to “a valid residence permit or a valid long-stay visa”. It doesn't define or mention “national visas” or “type D visas” but it is clearly limited to long-stay visas, which ought to mean visas for stays longer than 90 days.

That said, I don't think that the Immigration Office of Norway necessarily meant to distinguish between different types of D visas, as opposed to simply assuming they would be valid for more than 90 days as national short-stay visas are not foreseen by the Schengen system (otherwise all the requirements and the whole architecture of the regulations would be entirely optional). These would in any case be very rare.

Because of all this it's unfortunately hard to determine how this visa should be treated or guess how border guards might look at it.

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  • Wild guess, but maybe that visa comes because they were out of days on their Schengen clock Commented Mar 22 at 21:35
  • @NicolasFormichella Maybe but that doesn't really change anything to what I wrote in the answer. Note that limited territorial validity visas are explicitly designed to cover this case, see article 25(1)(b) of the Schengen Visa Code. So Switzerland has a legal tool intended to give them a better solution in this situation, which would entirely avoid the ambiguity of this not-quite-long-stay visa. Again, the whole system is predicated on the notion that there are no other short-stay visas than uniform Schengen visas.
    – Relaxed
    Commented Mar 22 at 21:41
  • The existence of the LTV visa also goes to show that the whole system was built around this assumption that all short stays are supposed to be covered by Schengen rules. If you could simply circumvent the 90-day maximum duration of stay by calling the visa a “D visa”, this maximum stay rule would mean nothing. It wouldn't make sense either to provide for a much more restricted visa like the LTV if national visas already covered this situation.
    – Relaxed
    Commented Mar 22 at 22:01
  • The three-month D visa here is for entry only, and AFAIK, also practised by other countries. The relevant point should be the duration of stay, which is XXX, and should be interpreted as for long term stay, even though the visa itself does not authorize more than 90 days.
    – xngtng
    Commented Mar 22 at 22:04
  • FWIW the Schengen convention (art. 18) appears to make D visa and long-stay visa synonymous, although it lies in how to interpret visa for a stay longer than 90 days.
    – xngtng
    Commented Mar 22 at 22:11

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