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Ireland? EU/Schengen party states? Asian and South American countries?

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The UK is part of the Five Countries Conference group, which agreed to share information about visa applications and other immigration intelligence between themselves - the other members of this group are Canada, the US, New Zealand and Australia. It is highly likely that a ban in the UK would affect applications to these countries.

The UK also has access to and informs the Schengen Information System, so there is data sharing occurring there - however, it is noted that as the UK is not a full member it cannot issue SIS alerts but there is no information on whether UK refusals or immigration issues are available to SIS users. It is possible but not certain that a ban in the UK would affect Schengen applications of travel.

The UK and Ireland are part of the Common Travel Area, which means both countries closely cooperate and share data between themselves - a refusal or ban in either country can certainly affect applications to the other country, due to the common travel area movement rules. It is highly likely that a ban in the UK would affect applications or travel to Ireland.

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    The UK does not participate in SIS except for the law enforcement aspects, which means alerts for wanted criminals. It is certain that a UK ban would not appear in SIS, because that is not a criminal matter.
    – MJeffryes
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    @JosephP. I trained to be a magistrate in a part of the UK which sees a lot of immigration related issues - some of them ended up infront of me (the vast majority of which were passed up the chain). I also take a lot of interest in what my home country does with regard to personal data privacy and campaign against it where I think it makes sense to.
    – user29788
    Commented Jul 7, 2020 at 22:09
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    @Joseph P. It is almost never prosecuted, because this leads to the overstayer spending more time in the UK to attend trial, and legal processes have routes of appeal which UKVI tends to dislike.
    – MJeffryes
    Commented Jul 7, 2020 at 22:14
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    @JosephP. thats worthy of a separate question, but yes it is a criminal matter. However, as MJeffryes says its rarely taken to trial as UKVI have ample legal authority to remove persons anyway.
    – user29788
    Commented Jul 7, 2020 at 22:16
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    @JosephP. unless you can make a case as a US citizen against the US government regarding those human rights abuses, an asylum request in the UK would be likely to fail imho.
    – user29788
    Commented Jul 7, 2020 at 22:19
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Many countries will ask in their visa forms if visa or entries to a third country have ever been denied.

Even if there is no automatic data sharing it is a bad idea to lie on a visa form. If you tell the truth, the visa may be denied because of the bad travel history, or it may be granted if the rest of the application looks good. If you lie and that gets caught, the visa will be denied and there may be the next ban.

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    and you can be banned for a long time. And then on your next application to a different country you'll have to say "I was banned for lying on a visa application"... Commented Jul 8, 2020 at 9:40

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