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I have to return to South Africa urgently for my father's memorial service. I hold dual nationality for South Africa and Australia. So I know that I need to exit Australia on my Australia passport and enter SA on my SA passport. And then exit SA on SA passport, etc. I am leaving on 4 Dec 2016 and returning on 17 Jan 2017 but my SA passport expires on 29 Jan 2017. I understand that your passport should be valid for 30 days after your exit date. So I only have 12 days!

Will that be an issue when I come to leave?

I have contacted the consulate in Canberra and they could only confirm the 30 days validity but not if it would be an issue for me to exit on 17 Jan.

  • That's a tricky one (I'm dual NZ and SA). If worst comes to worst, I know people who visit SA on their other passport (Even though technically you're meant to enter on your SA one), and have never had any problems. We had that on here and they actually asked the border guard what might happen - may interest you – Mark Mayo Nov 24 '16 at 23:45
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    My South African passport needs 30 days validity on it and that is the info I got from SA Consulate in Canberra and from Home Affairs website. – wendean Nov 25 '16 at 0:36
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    That seems like it should be plenty of time to renew your SA passport. – Michael Hampton Nov 25 '16 at 1:33
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    @wendean Wait, what, the 30 days is not for SA citizens, it's for visitors holding a non-SA passport. Care to link the Home Affairs website where you found otherwise? – chx Nov 25 '16 at 4:01
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    @wendean Those consulate staff were noobs, read my answer. I have yet to find out about a single country so asinine as to require anything beyond a document valid on Arrival for citizens (or for that matter Alien residents) – Crazydre Nov 25 '16 at 12:23
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Timatic, the database used by airlines, states:

  • Passports and other documents accepted for entry must be valid for a minimum of 30 days beyond the period of intended stay.
  • Passports issued to nationals of South Africa must be valid on arrival.
  • Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to residents of South Africa must be valid on arrival.

In other words, citizens of SA have to have documents valid on the day of arrival: an expired one will not do. The airline us unlikely to let you board the plane to SA and if you do make it to SA immigration, you'll receive a fine, but of course be let in.

When it comes to exiting SA, the only information I can find is (also from Timatic):

Nationals of South Africa holding dual nationality are required to enter and depart South Africa using their South African passport.

No country that I'm aware of (except under the "European Agreement on Regulations governing the Movement of Persons between Member States of the Council of Europe") accepts expired passports (even if their own) for departure even though they frequently do for entry (mainly if their own).

The SA Department of Home Affairs website seems to imply that an SA passport must be valid for at least 30 days after the intended departure.

However, one question that arises is what they mean by "intended departure"? It could imply that, should any unexpected situation arise whereby your flight back to Australia (i.e. out of SA) has to be re-booked, you would not be forced to get a new passport.

Based on this info, it's certain your passport only needs to be valid on the entry date to enter, but at least 30 days after the "intended departure date"

  • @pnuts I noticed now, and updated my answer – Crazydre Nov 25 '16 at 22:58
  • @pnuts Not what I meant either, since Timatic clearly states it only Needs to be valid on Arrival for entry. Re-phrased it – Crazydre Nov 25 '16 at 23:06
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The job of airlines when checking your documents when they are checking you into a flight is to make sure that you have the right to be in the country where they are taking you (and you are who you say you are, no credit card fraud has occured and you aren't a crook). As you mention, according to the rules of most countries this typically means you need a certain length of validity on your passport, long enough to 'contain' the visa that will be required for visiting.

Basically you've got to look at your passports as three separate things. They're proof to the airline that you're a allowed to board a plane, they're to show country A immigration authorities that you are leaving country A, and they're proof to the immigration authorities of country B that you can enter country V.

As I understand it right here- you'll be entering South Africa with a soon to expire South African passport..... which should be absolutely zero issue. You're South African. You don't even need a passport to live in your country.

But then you're trying to leave on a soon to expire South African passport...which the airline may find trouble with as they're working under the assumption that you're a normal South African with a soon to expire passport and the Australian immigration authorities won't let you in. Your passport is valid for showing who you are, it's this proof that you're allowed in Australia that is their concern.

But... you don't need an Australian visa. You already have a 'visa' in the form of your Australian passport. Australian immigration won't be an issue at all for you getting into the country and the airline won't recieve a fine.

I'd suggest calling the airline in advance to tell them about your situation. I'm 99% sure it will be OK, though it will make things smoother for you if they know in advance and one of their more knowledgable people puts a note on your file; if you get unlucky with someone hopeless working in the airport on the day then they might cause fuss over any number of valid but unorthodox situations.

Edit- easy version.

I'd say to rely mostly on your Australian passport. Australians don't need a visa for SA anyway. You only need to bring out your SA passport at the immigration desk in SA.

  • ...which fits just fine with what I said. You'll be boarding the planes with your Australian passport but entering and exiting SA with with your SA passport. – the other one Nov 25 '16 at 14:08
  • @theotherone "In terms of section 26(B) of the South African Citizenship Act, 1995, it is a punishable offence for a South African citizen of 18 years and older to leave or enter South Africa on a foreign passport" – Crazydre Nov 25 '16 at 23:03

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