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Oct 12, 2019 at 21:54 comment added Vikki @Harper: Cessna 404 Not Found?
May 30, 2017 at 15:46 comment added Harper - Reinstate Monica @alephzero that is completely normal in a small plane. Weight distribution and balance are everything. Even if the imbalance is within the ability of trim to handle, that steals some of your margin-of-control, which you may need later as you burn fuel, fight turbulence, resist stall, trim for landing etc. And of course plain overweight will kill you - that did in Aaliyah, they were right-sized for a Cessna 404 but got switched to a 402B. Pilots being seen fussing over weight/balance = Good Thing.
May 30, 2017 at 14:27 comment added nigel222 Fond memories of stand-by tourism in the USA in the 1980s: just turn up at the gate, if there was a space in the plane you got it. The scheduled flight from Bozeman to Kalispell was in something like this. My seat was conditional on my back-pack fitting in the hold (it did). Once we reached cruising altitude the co-pilot passed a multi-pack of Coke to the passengers and quipped "bet you weren't expecting in-flight service in one of these"!
May 30, 2017 at 9:38 comment added insanity I'm not getting on these planes with my weight then!
May 30, 2017 at 7:55 comment added WW. @alephzero Maybe I should have said "interesting" rather than "scenic". Once we took off on-time, flew 15 minutes and then into a holding pattern in a thunderstorm. We circled for so long that we had to return to our origin and refuel, then go up again for more.
May 30, 2017 at 5:38 history edited WW. CC BY-SA 3.0
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May 29, 2017 at 20:32 comment added Calchas @alephzero Mokulele weigh each passenger as he checks in. When it's time to board, the "seat plan" is based on these weights (and the seat plan is simply someone telling you where to sit).
May 29, 2017 at 18:48 comment added Tonny @alephzero Been there, done that. Actually that pilot could have been me...
May 29, 2017 at 18:42 comment added UnrecognizedFallingObject @alephzero -- yeah, sometimes the weather doesn't allow for scenic views ('tis what IFR is for). The rearranging is also annoying, but sometimes necessary with small "puddle jumper" planes because the law of averages doesn't work as well to keep the plane nicely balanced when you have less than a dozen folks, vs upwards of a hundred...
May 29, 2017 at 17:22 comment added alephzero ... and on the return trip, the pilot took a look at the passengers before takeoff and asked "Can the fattest guys move into the front seats, please - let's get the CG as far forward as we can." (!!!)
May 29, 2017 at 17:17 comment added alephzero "As the flights are short and scenic on these types of planes..." Not necessarily. I once flew 150 miles in a company-aircraft Piper Navajo where the only "view" was rain lashing the windows and a few clouds. On descent to the destination (at about 11am in summer!) the clouds disappeared, because it was too dark to see anything outside the plane - until we passed a pole with some landing lights on it, apparently about a wingspan away from the plane, and the wheels hit the tarmac hard. The overall experience was pretty much like driving a SUV down a dirt track at 70 mph for 90 minutes!
May 29, 2017 at 13:43 history answered WW. CC BY-SA 3.0