Timeline for Can I skip Ryanair's separate visa check for non-EU citizens as per the EU air passenger rights regulation?
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| Apr 22, 2018 at 16:19 | answer | added | Max A | timeline score: -1 | |
| Dec 23, 2017 at 10:28 | vote | accept | JonathanReez♦ | ||
| Oct 28, 2016 at 4:54 | answer | added | George Y. | timeline score: 6 | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 16:50 | vote | accept | JonathanReez♦ | ||
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| Oct 27, 2016 at 16:18 | comment | added | Zach Lipton | It says you must present yourself for checkin "as stipulated." Here, one of the stipulations is that non-EU citizens present themselves at the designated counter to have their documents checked. | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 12:14 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackTravel/status/791614132323815425 | ||
| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:55 | history | edited | JonathanReez♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:55 | comment | added | Calchas | When interpreting a law you have to look to its purpose and the intention of those who framed it. It is hard to argue that this law was intended to deprive the carrier of the right to perform identity and documentation checks. | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:55 | history | edited | JonathanReez♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:50 | comment | added | DTRT | I think you're conflating two 'rules' that have nothing to do with each other. For instance, you won't be able to use Paragraph 1 to fly nude, carry drugs, or live animals. All prohibited by separate rules. :) | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:47 | history | edited | JonathanReez♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:47 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @MarkMayo the way the EU law is written, airlines are liable for denied boarding compensation except for a narrow range of reasons. So, yes, they can deny any passenger on board for any reason. But, no, they might still be liable to pay out a compensation. | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:46 | comment | added | Mark Mayo | Even if the law is on your side, it's probably also on their side if it's mentioned in their conditions of carriage. If their conditions of carriage require you to be dressed in orange and you agreed, well, I'm not a lawyer, but I guess they'd be able to hold you to it. | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:22 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @Relaxed I saw many mentions of people skipping the visa checks and still allowed to board, so maybe Ryanair knows it's unenforceable? I presume it would take an ECJ ruling to put in the final word, though. | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:16 | answer | added | user29788 | timeline score: 10 | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 11:12 | comment | added | Relaxed | That's a creative one but couldn't Ryanair claim this is a part of their check-in procedure? | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 10:48 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @Willeke I like testing the boundaries of how far silly rules can be ignored and willing to pay a few dozen euros if my theory fails :) | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 10:46 | comment | added | Willeke♦ | Easy solution, do not fly with companies that require the check. I have not ever used Ryan air, I bet many more people managed to survive without them. | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 10:38 | comment | added | Urbana | Not a lawyer but I could see agreeing to present your visa falling under "as stipulated" if it's in the conditions of carriage | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 10:36 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | Related: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/53994/… and travel.stackexchange.com/questions/54014/… | |
| Oct 27, 2016 at 10:35 | history | asked | JonathanReez♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |