Timeline for Are airlines not liable for damages and losses to the contents of luggage?
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| Sep 24, 2015 at 12:40 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackTravel/status/647027736490471425 | ||
| Sep 21, 2015 at 14:32 | vote | accept | feklee | ||
| Sep 19, 2015 at 14:31 | comment | added | Andy | @CMaster I think I've actually heard / seen "throwers" used as slang to refer to baggage handlers, so great point. | |
| Sep 19, 2015 at 8:50 | comment | added | smci | ^^ Oh and another power-tip, then stuff the socks inside your shoes/sneakers. That prevents the wrapped glass container falling out and is pretty much indestructible. Or stuff down the arm of a sweater. When you pack, first separate and wrap your fragiles in socks/tshirts/shoes/sweaters, then figure out how to arrange the inside the luggage. | |
| Sep 19, 2015 at 8:37 | comment | added | smci | This seems to be all about EU 10 worth of marmelade. They did not in fact damage the actual luggage nor any of the non-fragile contents, right? And you didn't have to dry-clean the other clothes? Notwithstanding their bad German translation for a very minor complaint (a red herring), you'd get the same response from the big carriers, probably Lufthansa too, just with nicer adjectives and proper grammar. So, go down to Aldi (or wherever) and buy a roll of bubble-wrap today, it's dead cheap. Honestly this is the solution. While you're down there, Aldi probably sells a half-decent marmelade. | |
| Sep 19, 2015 at 8:23 | comment | added | smci | Or else for small items (e.g. honey, vodka, shot glasses, souvenirs, photo frames), bubblewrap, plastic bag and stuff it inside a pair of socks. After your trip, do not discard the bubblewrap, just keep it in your luggage pre-shaped and taped for the next time you'll need it. You can successfully reuse the same bubblewrap for years. Thrifty but effective. | |
| Sep 19, 2015 at 8:22 | comment | added | smci | Glass containers are fragile. Similar to other advice, with glass containers (wine, vinegar, jam, preserves, sauces), I always have some bubblewrap pre-shaped and taped, leaving the bottom open for quick insertion; put your container inside that, fold over the bottom with bubble-wrap, then seal it tight in a plastic bag (keeps bubblewrap flush to the glass container; also prevents leakage if it breaks); now wrap that in at least one tshirt or top, wrapping it around the circumference, fold over to cover both glass top and bottom; and either pack tight, or a 2nd bag to keep the padding in place | |
| Sep 19, 2015 at 6:43 | comment | added | Relaxed | @calchas The language in easy jet's CC comes directly from the convention. That's not the issue here, | |
| Sep 19, 2015 at 0:52 | comment | added | Calchas | However, the carrier is not liable if the goods are inherently fragile. As a glass jar is. | |
| Sep 19, 2015 at 0:51 | comment | added | Calchas | Was this an international flight? If so, the Montreal Convention supersedes any condition of carriage tending to relieve the carrier of liability. | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 23:01 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | @ChrisH: and tie the plastic bags shut. And if you can find ones that don't have small holes to stop children dying in them, then so much the better, but if it's just the carrier bags you've picked up as you travelled you might be out of luck there. | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 21:08 | answer | added | Lemuel Gulliver | timeline score: -5 | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 15:47 | comment | added | Chris H - UK | You can carry glass jars in checked luggage and get away with it, if you do so carefully. Something like: wrap jar in plastic bag to contain anything that leaks; wrap that in a towel or tshirt (not your best); finally place in the middle of your bag, between/in shoes/books etc. unless your case is very hard. For liquids (real liquids not airport security "liquids" a second plastic bag after the towel would be a good idea. Basically, protect it from getting smashed when (not if) it's dropped, protect everything else in case it breaks. You've learnt the hard way what happens. | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 15:30 | comment | added | David Richerby | The fact that you are shocked by your bag being returned to you upside down indicates that you are, shall we say, quite naive about what happens to bags at airports and almost certainly protected your jar of marmalade inadequately. | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 15:22 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Sep 18, 2015 at 15:06 | comment | added | Him | I think it should belongs to Law.SE | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 14:45 | comment | added | Mason Wheeler | At least it wasn't a guitar... | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 14:43 | answer | added | reirab | timeline score: 8 | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 13:43 | comment | added | Mindwin Remember Monica | @PavelPetrman After all, garbage bags are less than 1mm thick and when they break the handler has to clean up a stinky mess. Damn those rugged luggage cases. | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 13:09 | comment | added | Pavel | I once packed 7 bottles of Porto wine in my checked bag for a two leg Lufthansa flight. When I later unpacked the whole of the 7 bottles unharmed, my brother (who is an airline pilot) was utterly shocked and advised me not to transport a piece of glass again in a checked luggage. All luggage is handled worse than garbage on just too many airports around the world. | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 12:44 | comment | added | gerrit | Seems easyJet is using Google Translate. Why am I not surprised? | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 11:47 | comment | added | Relaxed | The language is indeed very poor but the third paragraph seems to confirm that they are hiding behind the fact that marmelade is food and do not, in principle, reject any liability for luggage contents. | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 11:46 | vote | accept | feklee | ||
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| Sep 18, 2015 at 11:21 | history | edited | feklee | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 18, 2015 at 10:59 | comment | added | CMaster | The reality is that airline luggage is treated pretty roughly, and you are expected to prepare for that. "Upside down" is nothing, the luggage has probably been inverted several times. At GVA they used to have videos running somewhere in the airport showing their baggage handling system (almost all automated). You could see in that baggage was somestimes dropped significant distances, flipped end over end, or knocked from conveyer belts by large "flippers". Human handlers can often be seen throwing baggage on to belts. | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 10:42 | comment | added | Mark Mayo | Related: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/3564/… | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 10:08 | answer | added | Relaxed | timeline score: 20 | |
| Sep 18, 2015 at 10:06 | history | edited | feklee | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 18, 2015 at 10:00 | history | edited | feklee | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 18, 2015 at 9:54 | history | asked | feklee | CC BY-SA 3.0 |