Timeline for Consular help for EU national in a country with a limited consulate of own country?
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| Sep 28, 2014 at 13:03 | comment | added | Gayot Fow | It's a different question. I suggest posting it as such. | |
| Sep 28, 2014 at 3:42 | comment | added | lambshaanxy | @GayotFow Your answer says "embassies can render the services that honorary consulates can't", a point on which we continue to be in perfect agreement. However, I continue to await your answer to what such services might consist of in practice, since HCs are generally perfectly capable of handling cases 1, 2, 3 and 6. (#5, crises, isn't really generalizable, but I'll grant you'd want an embassy if it's time for the last helicopter out of Saigon.) | |
| Sep 28, 2014 at 3:38 | comment | added | lambshaanxy | @Relaxed, haven't we already had this little scrap at the embassy vs consulate question? While a consulate will indeed not be of much use if you need to sign a multilateral disarmament treaty, from a traveler's POV they're largely identical. (Clarification added.) | |
| Sep 28, 2014 at 3:36 | history | edited | lambshaanxy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 27, 2014 at 13:29 | comment | added | Relaxed | @GayotFow Yes, I read all that but I was commenting on another detail of the answer which I find unhelpful. | |
| Sep 27, 2014 at 13:17 | comment | added | Gayot Fow | @Relaxed, the distinction is between honorary consulates and diplomatic consulates. Two different kettles of fish. But generally outside the scope of the OP's question: "As an EU national am I entitled to consular help if my own country only provides limited services through its consulate or embassy?" And thus belabouring on a 'red herring' :) | |
| Sep 27, 2014 at 13:04 | comment | added | Relaxed | A consulate is basically an embassy outside the capital… except it does none of the things all embassies do and not all embassies do what a consulate does. Obviously many embassies do have a consular section but what's the point of this description beyond adding confusion? | |
| Sep 27, 2014 at 12:41 | comment | added | Gayot Fow | Answer amended, please read | |
| Sep 27, 2014 at 12:05 | comment | added | lambshaanxy | So tell me, for a citizen of EU country X, what actual service can an embassy of Y do that an honorary consulate of X can't? In other words, what practical use is this legal right in the OP's specific situation, when there is an honorary consulate? | |
| Sep 27, 2014 at 11:59 | comment | added | Gayot Fow | "the embassy of another country can probably help you even less" This is a broad generalization that is not supported anywhere and contradicted both by law and practice. What a member state can do is highly specific and definitively enumerated. | |
| Sep 27, 2014 at 11:09 | comment | added | lambshaanxy | I'm not entirely sure what you're driving at here. Nobody's disputing that all EU embassies/consulates have an obligation to help EU citizens, or claiming that they don't; I'm just pointing out while the OP is entitled to help, the help they can offer in practice is quite limited. | |
| Sep 27, 2014 at 1:29 | comment | added | Gayot Fow | Um... No, that's not the case. Can you cite an example where a member state acted outside of the law and failed to support an EU citizen? Or otherwise supports your answer? If not, I suggest correcting your answer. | |
| Sep 27, 2014 at 1:13 | comment | added | lambshaanxy | Because there is very little another country's embassy can do that an honorary consulate can't. Aside from the ETD as noted above, I can't think of anything. | |
| Sep 26, 2014 at 18:59 | comment | added | Gayot Fow | Can you explain this part "the embassy of another country can probably help you even less" when the law specifically states otherwise? | |
| Sep 26, 2014 at 11:14 | history | edited | lambshaanxy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 26, 2014 at 7:45 | comment | added | the | I'll go for this answer if you find a reference (just a link is fine) in EU law (or otherwise official EU text/website) that covers the "honorary" situation. | |
| Sep 26, 2014 at 6:53 | comment | added | Fattie | This would seem to solve the case ... .NL does NOT have a consulate in madcr. Good one. And yeah, honorary consulates throw the best parties :) | |
| Sep 25, 2014 at 23:41 | history | edited | lambshaanxy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 25, 2014 at 23:32 | history | answered | lambshaanxy | CC BY-SA 3.0 |