Timeline for Firearm carried aboard an ocean going sailboat
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| Sep 29, 2022 at 11:47 | comment | added | blackappy | Excellent and EXTREMELY realistic comment. | |
| Aug 21, 2016 at 14:45 | history | edited | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 14, 2014 at 17:00 | comment | added | Thorsten S. | @DJClayworth I will look out for the reference, but I do not know if such a reference in English will exist. I can understand that it would be better to support my advice with facts and data, but I suspect that there will be not much, only hands-on experience from sailors. | |
| Jul 14, 2014 at 16:43 | comment | added | DJClayworth | The point is that the number of attacks is very tiny. But in general your advice about what to do if you decide to carry weapons is good. The kind of reference that we are looking for is a reputable article saying the things you say. | |
| Jul 14, 2014 at 16:18 | comment | added | Thorsten S. | @DJClayworth After reading the report I must have missed the percentage of bluewater sailors without a gun. Can you point it out to me ? And another problem is that this is the number of the people reporting an attack which may not coincide with the number of missed ships (for any reason: freak wave, ground collision and human attack). | |
| Jul 14, 2014 at 16:04 | comment | added | DJClayworth | @ThorstenS. See this report "In 2012 there is not a single report of a yacht being attacked by pirates anywhere in the world. In 2008 there were nine yachts attacked, in 2009 six, in 2010 only one, then it spiked to four in 2011" | |
| Jul 14, 2014 at 15:55 | comment | added | Thorsten S. | @DJClayworth Please prove that. | |
| Jul 14, 2014 at 15:53 | comment | added | DJClayworth | @ThorstenS. Let me rephrase that. Hundreds if not thousands of bluewater sailors voyage without firearms and suffer no attacks or problems whatsoever. | |
| Jul 14, 2014 at 15:49 | comment | added | Thorsten S. | @DJClayworth No, it is not disproved. First, we are talking about bluewater cruising, living on a ship and sailing over the oceans. That is a miniscule part of all sailors which are sailing for fun and move only short distances from their home country. As the most part of sailors consists of first-world countries (because only they could buy a boat), the sailing areas are safe (and yes, in that case I agree, you do not need a gun). This says nothing about the danger involved in bluewater sailing. But interesting point: What exactly is the reference you would accept ? | |
| Jul 14, 2014 at 15:02 | comment | added | DJClayworth | You seem to be implying that you need a weapon. This is disproved by the fact that many hundreds, if not thousands, of sailors voyage without firearms and suffer no attacks or problems whatsoever. | |
| Jul 14, 2014 at 14:57 | comment | added | DJClayworth | This badly needs a link to a reference supporting the answer (not just to Wikipedia entries for automatic weapons). | |
| Jul 14, 2014 at 0:10 | history | edited | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 13, 2014 at 14:41 | comment | added | o0'. | @Cody this comment worries me. Are you actually going on cruise, or the whole point of your voyage is to hope to get attacked by pirates in order to be able to legally shoot at them? | |
| Jul 13, 2014 at 13:32 | comment | added | Bakuriu | And keep in mind that, depending on the country, even if you shoot for self-defense you can get in a lot of troubles (e.g. the case of Italian marines that are currently held in India for doing their work against pirates). | |
| Jul 13, 2014 at 13:14 | comment | added | Etheryte | Being good at shooting down a range won't help you if you get boarded and are heavily outnumbered. | |
| Jul 13, 2014 at 12:16 | comment | added | DaveP | @Cody Try not to assume that other people from other cultures think about things in the same way that you do. If the people attacking you and your boat are under the belief that their god has already pre-ordained the outcome of your encounter, you might get a short and deadly surprise. Leave the gun at home and just avoid the places where such things happen. There are countless wonderful cruising destinations offering no such risks. | |
| Jul 13, 2014 at 5:05 | comment | added | Cody | However, I would disagree with you about resistance against a dozen armed pirates in a speed boat. Those people are notoriously bad shots and often carry poorly maintained weapons that are rusted and waiting to break down. My weapon would be in prime condition and my aim far more deadly, even at sea. And if I'm wrong, those people are cowards. They prey upon those from whom they expect no resistance. Give them some resistance, and I bet they would not consider it worth their time. | |
| Jul 13, 2014 at 5:03 | comment | added | Cody | I thank you for this information; it is very helpful. I didn't know about shot gun cartridges swelling like that either. If I read your comment right, you're saying that basically your boat represents the country and state you come from and is bound by the laws thereof and not where the boat's geographical location is. | |
| Jul 12, 2014 at 22:10 | history | answered | Thorsten S. | CC BY-SA 3.0 |