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Mar 29, 2014 at 17:54 comment added JonathanReez Just a quick thought - wouldn't the doctor be able to escape liability be drinking alcohol on every flight? He could then claim he was incapacitated, which would be extremely hard to dispove at a later date.
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Mar 26, 2014 at 21:53 answer added unknownprotocol timeline score: 3
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Mar 19, 2014 at 16:16 answer added Von Lion timeline score: 3
Mar 19, 2014 at 16:06 comment added Von Lion @Amber, this is patently not correct. Please see Dutch Law article 450, you can be punished with up to 3 months in jail if you don't provide care "up to your ability" for someone who dies.
Mar 19, 2014 at 14:15 answer added Damon timeline score: 14
Mar 19, 2014 at 13:08 comment added Relaxed @jpatokal Well, that's precisely what I was trying to get at: It makes sense if he is ready to help but wants to avoid being entangled in a US lawsuit but not if he wants to avoid getting involved entirely. It's not helping at all that might create problems in other countries.
Mar 19, 2014 at 12:58 comment added DJClayworth The issue this doctor faces I suspect is not about whether he counts as a doctor, but whether he could be sued under US law if he tries to help a passenger and something goes wrong. The US legal system is notoriously trigger-happy, and doctors are sued in the US much more frequently and for much larger sums than anywhere else. Many other countries have safeguards preventing doctors from being sued when they try to help in these circumstances.
Mar 19, 2014 at 12:43 answer added Neil Strickland timeline score: 4
Mar 19, 2014 at 12:37 comment added Amber @Bakuriu I also don't know how it works in the US, my sister's degree is from NL. I assume the US has the same system as NL, as US is infamous for sueing people in general. I am interested to know how that legislation is enforced in Italy, could you let me know (if it is not too much off-topic)?
Mar 19, 2014 at 12:32 comment added Bakuriu @Amber I don't know how it works in the US, but in Italy it's illegal to not help, to the extend that you are able. So not helping wont protect you from lawsuits, at least in Italy.
Mar 19, 2014 at 11:53 comment added Amber On your first rhetorical question: No, I have never heard that announcement, not even on long flights. My sister is a Doctor, and has been taught, while still learning, that she is not allowed to help people in medical capacity when not on duty, due to lawsuits. A layman cannot be held responsibly for providing poor care in medical emergencies, but a doctor can.
Mar 19, 2014 at 11:42 answer added Tor-Einar Jarnbjo timeline score: 32
Mar 19, 2014 at 10:58 comment added Gagravarr Might depend on the airline? Lufthansa have a special program for Doctors to pre-register, which allows cabin crew to know immediately if there is a doctor, and provides the doctors with liability insurance
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Mar 19, 2014 at 9:53 comment added lambshaanxy Sure, but there aren't many other countries where people fairly regularly sue doctors who were trying to help them in life-threatening situations.
Mar 19, 2014 at 9:47 history edited mindcorrosive CC BY-SA 3.0
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Mar 19, 2014 at 9:25 comment added Relaxed It sounds like nonsense to me and also like he is forgetting half of the story. He might not be “liable” under US laws but other countries have laws, too.
Mar 19, 2014 at 9:19 comment added user141 @annoyed no it is not about practicing, but really about traveling. In this specific case the guy actually refrained from assisting only exposing himself as a medical doctor when I tried to help (not being a doctor). When asked why he didn't respond in the first place, I got the answer above.
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Mar 19, 2014 at 9:04 comment added Relaxed It probably hinges on what you mean by “being a medical doctor”. To state the obvious, you can't fully practice everywhere without at least some formalities but you still know medicine. Plus if he actually said “not liable”, that does not necessarily means he couldn't or wouldn't assist in an emergency, only that it would not be under the threat of US malpractice laws, which have a bad reputation among doctors (very high damages, etc.)
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