Timeline for Why doesn't my passport show if a foreign country has banned me?
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| Mar 6, 2023 at 20:01 | comment | added | Kate Gregory | @user610620 you're wrong, moonman isn't the first to say that. This answer says "Some governments keep lists of violations, and some share those lists with other countries, but it's not universal. When they do share, the mechanism they share with is not your passport, but another form of communication." | |
| Mar 6, 2023 at 18:01 | comment | added | user610620 | See, this is the point of the question. You're the first one to say "USCIS/USCBP might just send your information to UKVI". | |
| Mar 2, 2023 at 19:14 | comment | added | moonman239 | Plus, if a country cares about your ban, presumably they have an agreement with the banning country to share that information. For example, if the US is willing to deny you a visa over you having been banned from entering the UK, USCIS/USCBP might just send your information to UKVI. | |
| Mar 2, 2023 at 18:39 | comment | added | Mark Johnson | @user610620 That is question that should be asked at Recently Active Questions - Law Stack Exchange, giving the exact jurisdiction with the precise reasons why you didn't give your contact information when the charges were made. Questions should be compleate and self contained. Comments should not be misused to ask further variants of the original question. | |
| Mar 2, 2023 at 15:53 | comment | added | ouflak | Need to be a bit careful here though. A passport does not necessarily demonstrate citizenship. | |
| Mar 2, 2023 at 13:24 | comment | added | user610620 | If a judge in a Schengen country makes a ruling on your case, and you have no idea that proceedings or a final judgment have been made against you, are you allowed to contest the charges, for example, 3 years later when you realize, upon attempted re-entry, that such bans had been imposed on your person without your consent or knowledge, assuming that you had made the proper inquiries at the time to authorities as to your proper stay length, yet the judgment was passed with omissions of the faulty advice given that could have lightened your punishment had you been alerted abroad? | |
| Mar 2, 2023 at 3:55 | comment | added | Mark Johnson | @user610620 When the overstay procedure is started, you will be given a form informing you of the charges being made and contact information will be given togeather with the collection of your contact information (address, e-mail etc.). Border control itsself does not impose a ban. Depending on jurisdiction, a state attorney will decide whether to procede and a judge will then make the final decision. It is a judge that authorises the alert. If you refuse to give the (or give faulty) contact information, then of course, you cannot be informed. | |
| Mar 2, 2023 at 2:13 | comment | added | Zach Lipton | Actually, I guess we have that question already: What is the equivalent of a subject access request for the Schengen Information System (ie, SIS)? | |
| Mar 2, 2023 at 2:00 | comment | added | Zach Lipton | As a hint, I'd read The Schengen Information System: A Guide for Exercising the Right of Access. | |
| Mar 2, 2023 at 1:59 | comment | added | Zach Lipton | @user610620 The alert is to all Schengen nations (the authorities of one country enters an alert into the database so that it can be accessed by the authorities of other Schengen countries). It is an alert to other Schengen countries, not specifically an alert to the passport holder, though people are often informed in writing when an alert is entered about them. If you want to know what rights you have as a third-country national to ask for disclosure of any information stored about you in the Schengen Information System, that sounds like something to ask as a new question. | |
| Mar 1, 2023 at 22:57 | comment | added | Kate Gregory | it's a good question ... and belongs as a question somewhere | |
| Mar 1, 2023 at 22:47 | comment | added | user610620 | How does a passport holder receive an alert when there is no phone number, address or e-mail associated with passports? | |
| Mar 1, 2023 at 20:05 | comment | added | Mark Johnson | @user610620 This is called alert in the: Schengen Information System (SIS) Article 42 (Right of information) 1. Third-country nationals who are the subject of an alert issued in accordance with this Regulation shall be informed in accordance with Articles 10 and 11 of Directive 95/46/EC. This information shall be provided in writing, together with a copy of or a reference to the national decision giving rise to the alert, as referred to in Article 24(1). | |
| Mar 1, 2023 at 18:44 | comment | added | Kate Gregory | That is a different question, and will very much depend on who you think banned you. I suggest asking a separate question: how can I see if I am banned from Schengen after an overstay? | |
| Mar 1, 2023 at 18:14 | comment | added | user610620 | Thanks for the information, but there is still no resolution to the issue: How then does someone find out they are banned from a country before traveling, without attempting to cross that country's border? Let's use a specific example: Schengen Area (in Europe) and any of its constituent countries. | |
| Mar 1, 2023 at 17:17 | history | edited | Kate Gregory | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Mar 1, 2023 at 17:10 | history | answered | Kate Gregory | CC BY-SA 4.0 |