Timeline for Is it common for humanitarian flights to lack security control for the baggage?
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Apr 24, 2020 at 19:31 | comment | added | Voo | If you look up what those 3000 firearms found are, you'll also learn that those weren't generally hidden. That's usually people who try to take a firearm with them without the right licenses, equipment or simply accidentally. So yeah great, the TSA managed to keep a few thousand people from flying with their guns without the correct paperwork. Those aren't terrorists you'd have to be afraid of. If you disagree with that assessment I challenge you to find 5 suspects from 2019 that show a likely terrorist being caught by the TSA - good luck with that. | |
Apr 24, 2020 at 19:22 | comment | added | Voo | @Chronocidal Fun fact: We don't have to guess how well the TSA security checks work. There are regular tests with people trying to smuggle firearms or explosive though them. Want to guess the efficiency of those tests? "red teams" with the Department of Homeland Security's Office of the Inspector General were able to get banned items through the screening process in 67 out of 70 tests | |
Apr 24, 2020 at 16:11 | comment | added | user77454 | @Chronocidal This could be accomplished with simple metal detectors. I believe that's the point most people are trying to make. Security is important. Overdoing it is an expensive waste of everyone's time and money. Also, I would bet almost anything that 100 percent of those confiscated guns were brought by accident, not by people intending to commit acts of terror. It happens all the time at airports, especially in places like Texas. | |
Apr 24, 2020 at 14:44 | comment | added | Chronocidal | @ilkkachu Bleh, sorry - typo there. Yes, it's about 1 every 12 days or 2 every 3 weeks | |
Apr 24, 2020 at 14:01 | comment | added | ilkkachu | @Chronocidal, 1 % of 3000 is 30, that's < 52, less than once a week. Did you mean two incidents every three weeks? | |
Apr 24, 2020 at 12:13 | comment | added | Chronocidal | @DRF In 2017, the US TSA prevented over 3000 guns being taken onto planes. If we generously assume that a mere 1% of those incidents had the potential to turn into a hijacking or attack, that still averages out at 3 incidents every 2 weeks, plus whatever happens in other countries. Of course, thanks to all of these security checks, we aren't seeing those acts of terror. | |
Apr 23, 2020 at 17:50 | comment | added | DRF | @VladimirF There's a difference between security checks and what's going on now. It's a difference of both magnitude and quality. I would be happy to go all pet peevish in a chat but it's a bit of an annoyance in the comment section. Since I'm not good at starting chats I will leave this as the last comment. | |
Apr 23, 2020 at 17:36 | comment | added | Vladimir F Героям слава | @DRF Security checks were common well before the 1990s. They certainly were became common at the beginning of 1970s. There were several big hijacks at that time. The hijackers of SlovAir in 1972 from LKKV already had to sneak their pistol in a child trolley. history.stackexchange.com/questions/46264/… | |
Apr 23, 2020 at 11:01 | comment | added | Konrad Rudolph | @user1173240 Here, have a read: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater | |
Apr 23, 2020 at 9:51 | comment | added | user11153 | @DRF xkcd.com/651 | |
Apr 23, 2020 at 8:50 | comment | added | DRF | @user1173240 Not 1960's even 1990's. And regarding the precautions, it's everything from being forced to take of my shoes, go through full body scanning devices that don't really do anything, confiscating knives, liquids, scissors and bottle pills, none of which they are capable of doing consistently, while allowing hundreds of laptops and lithium powered devices on board, and I could go on for much longer. | |
Apr 23, 2020 at 6:25 | comment | added | gparyani | @user1173240 They might be referring back to the 1960s when commercial flights didn't have any security. | |
Apr 23, 2020 at 6:07 | comment | added | user1173240 | @DRF I am curious, which precautions might you be referring to? | |
Apr 22, 2020 at 18:02 | comment | added | DRF | It may be worth pointing out this used to be the norm before people went bonkers and decided that throwing away billions of dollars on precautions that do nothing at best and are actively harmful at worst was a good idea. | |
Apr 22, 2020 at 16:36 | comment | added | Ionică Bizău | I am definitely very thankful. It just seemed interesting to me since it was the first time when I saw this. | |
Apr 22, 2020 at 16:35 | vote | accept | Ionică Bizău | ||
Apr 22, 2020 at 7:13 | history | answered | user105640 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |