Timeline for Do I need a Schengen visa for a direct flight to Amsterdam?
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| Apr 16, 2019 at 13:14 | comment | added | phoog | @gerrit no matter. The concern is a legitimate one. I've edited the sentence to remove the focus on documents and instead underscore the meaning of "internal flight." Do you think this is better? (I don't want to get into a comprehensive account of when and why it might be necessary to show the passport because it's rather unimportant to the main question here.) | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 13:12 | history | edited | phoog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 16, 2019 at 12:50 | comment | added | gerrit | @phoog I would have written "without border controls", although with a customs border that's not accurate either. I apologise for being not very constructive by criticising a phrasing without suggesting a better alternative. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 12:45 | comment | added | phoog | @xan I've added a paragraph with a couple of links. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 12:44 | history | edited | phoog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 16, 2019 at 12:24 | comment | added | phoog | @gerrit do you have a suggestion for a better phrase than "passport controls"? I once used the phrase "immigration controls" in a question, and at least one person incorrectly understood that the question was about immigrating. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 12:22 | comment | added | Xan | It would be a good idea to provide argumentation for that, since refugee travel document allows some visa-free travel. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 12:20 | comment | added | phoog | @Xan I did see that comment, and it would have changed the answer if the destination were in Germany, but as the destination is in the Netherlands, it does not. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 11:40 | comment | added | gerrit | @HenningMakholm In my case, one of my pieces of luggage was delayed. To get my luggage, I could either sign a form declaring that it did not contain anything to declare and have it delivered to my hotel, or I could pick it up from the airport in person when it arrived. For the former case I think they did ask me to prove my identity. I suppose that when declaring goods they record who is importing, but maybe I'm wrong. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 11:16 | comment | added | kukis | @Henrik I don't see why it would be 'best to be ready to show a passport'. ID card is as valid document as passport is for internal Schengen flights. I've travelled a lot with just ID card within Schengen area and I am yet to encounter any problems or even weird looks. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 10:18 | comment | added | Xan | Something that was buried in comments to the question but has a lot of relevance: OP has a refugee passport ([sic], presumably a refugee travel document) from Canada. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 9:20 | comment | added | hmakholm left over Monica | @gerrit: Evidence of what? I admit I've never traveled with goods that need to be paid duty on, but I'd always imagined that customs were happy enough to receive cash (or, perhaps, nowadays plastic). It's not clear to me why they would need to be sure of the traveler's identity. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 9:11 | comment | added | gerrit | @HenningMakholm If I declare goods and write who I am they will just believe who I am? Or will they accept (for example) a driving license from Malawi or a photo ID from a school in Laos as evidence? I have done a declaration once (in Keflavík) and I think I did show my passport, but maybe they would have accepted an Ontario Photo Card too? I don't know. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 9:09 | comment | added | hmakholm left over Monica | @gerrit: I've never heard of customs caring about passports -- except if they need to fine you for smuggling and want to be sure whom they're fining. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 9:08 | comment | added | Henrik supports the community | @gerrit: Probably now, but I don't know if there are any rules for certain non-Schengen citizens, that would allow them to use something else than a passport. Which is also why I wrote that it's best to be ready to show a passport and that it's technically (I should probably have emphasized that before) that phoog is right, the exception is not relevant for the OP (or that many who will ever benefit from this answer). | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 8:55 | comment | added | gerrit | @Henrik If checked by customs (OP enters EU Customs Union), I don't know if anything else than a passport suffices for non-Schengen citizens. Does it? | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 8:39 | comment | added | Henrik supports the community | @gerrit: Citizens of Schengen is allowed to travel between the countries in Schengen with any national ID, not necessarily a passport (some countries in Schengen doesn't have any other national ID, but that's irrelevant here), so at all those stages you mention (and I agree it's worth remembering, and not confuse them) it's ID control (and it's not a given, I don't think I showed any form of ID the last time I travelled internally in Schengen), not passport control. So technically phoog is right, but it's probably best to be ready to show a passport. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 7:20 | comment | added | gerrit | You may want to clarify "Without passport controls"; I know you mean immigration/border controls specifically, but many people confuse the stages security, boarding, border/immigration, and customs; on an Iceland-Netherlands flight, three of those may still ask ID, so a flight "Without passport controls" it is not. | |
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| Apr 16, 2019 at 2:19 | history | answered | phoog | CC BY-SA 4.0 |