Timeline for Passport requirements on entering Ireland as a citizen
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| Oct 2, 2018 at 15:55 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @illustro nobody cares on the sense that you won't be denied entry over this. Hence nobody cares. | |
| Oct 2, 2018 at 15:54 | comment | added | illustro | @JonathanReez yes, however my entry was delayed because of it. Which is the point I am making. It also proves that the border Agents do care about what document you use (which is directly contradictory to your comment saying “nobody cares”) | |
| Oct 2, 2018 at 15:46 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @illustro but you were still allowed to enter despite the error? | |
| Oct 2, 2018 at 15:42 | comment | added | illustro | @JonathanReez to clarify, every single time I enter Ireland (after arriving from anywhere) my travel document is scanned. Similarly if I arrive in the UK from any place that is not in the CTA, my trace document is scanned on arrival. I have had situations occur (similar but not the same as the one from the OP) after I had entered my travel document incorrectly and I have had to explain that to Border agents. | |
| Oct 2, 2018 at 15:30 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @illustro if they're not scanning your document then the country in question doesn't really care about APIs data. Please come back when you have a data point showing that entering the wrong passport details caused you some issues. | |
| Oct 2, 2018 at 9:06 | comment | added | illustro | ... requires airlines to transmit the document and document numbers that passengers use to travel to the relevant member state, means that countries in the EU do, in fact, care about what document was used to check-in. | |
| Oct 2, 2018 at 9:05 | comment | added | illustro | @JonathanReez Doing some more reading on that accepted answer...it's just not correct. I travel all the time and I have never had my passport or identification scanned at the gate. What is scanned at the gate is my boarding pass. I also exclusively check-in online, and as a result my documents are not scanned at check-in either. As such, the only way the airline knows what document I've traveled with is by what I entered during the online check-in. Combine this with the EU directive (Pg2, Article 3, eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/…) that ... | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 14:07 | vote | accept | Paddez | ||
| Sep 28, 2018 at 23:04 | comment | added | Crazydre | @DavidRicherby Point taken; that is indeed what I meant | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:49 | comment | added | David Richerby | @Coke OK but if your position is "In practice, this won't happen because the airlines rely on Timatic, which says XYZ", then it would be much clearer if you said that. | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:49 | comment | added | illustro | ..refusal and you have then committed an offense if you fail to comply. | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:49 | comment | added | illustro | @JonathanReez sure they can. Section 5 of the act I mentioned defines offensive conduct as "In this section “offensive conduct” means any unreasonable behaviour which, having regard to all the circumstances, is likely to cause serious offence or serious annoyance to any person who is, or might reasonably be expected to be, aware of such behaviour.". The Garda could reasonably view your refusal to produce your passport book (which you have on you) when requested by a Border Agent while passing through the immigration section as being unreasonable. The then instruct you to desist from your ... | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:49 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @user84713 yes but the accepted answer works for pretty much any country in the world - nobody cares which document you use for check in. That someone actually does is a myth. | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:45 | comment | added | illustro | @JonathanReez That question you linked is restricted to the US and UK, and the accepted answer explicitly only deals with the US/UK regulations. | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:43 | comment | added | illustro | @Coke As an Irish Citizen travelling from Ireland to the UK I do not legally have to provide any ID beyond a work pass (which just has a name and a picture on it), however airlines can and do require higher forms of identification to travel with them (see Ryanair and their policy on requiring passports to travel). | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:37 | comment | added | Crazydre | @DavidRicherby All handling agents I've spoken to (Swissport, Dnata, Aviator, Menzies, TAV Georgia and Pegasus Ground handling at various airports) have said that TIMATIC has the final say as far as they're concerned | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:31 | comment | added | David Richerby | @Coke You keep going on about Timatic. Whether or not an airline can do something is a different question to whether or not Timatic will advise them to do that thing. | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:28 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | As for using a different document for online check in, see travel.stackexchange.com/questions/79636/… | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:26 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | Welcome to the site! Please note that Garda officers cannot demand anything from you. What they can do is strictly regulated. They could probably search you given that you're inside a secure airport zone, but they couldn't demand that you show them your passport instead of your passport card. | |
| Sep 28, 2018 at 15:12 | comment | added | Crazydre | @user84713 "However, you are required to use the passport card number when checking in online if you intend to use it (at which point the airline can refuse to carry you if your flight originates outside of the EU)." Nope, because they check documentation using the TIMATIC database, which states teh passpor Card can be used in General, not jus when flying from an EU/Schengen state | |
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| Sep 28, 2018 at 14:58 | comment | added | David Richerby | Welcome to the site! | |
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