Timeline for Permanent family member of Latvian citizen. Can I travel to the UK or Ireland without an article 20 residency permit?
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| Feb 5, 2018 at 12:42 | history | edited | hmakholm left over Monica | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 5, 2018 at 11:38 | comment | added | davnicwil | You should certainly apply for the EEA family permit, not necessarily for use at the UK border, where the proper supporting documentation is readily accepted and everything is dealt with quickly and pleasantly (in my experience) but rather for the flight, where airline staff may not know the law, and may be very reluctant (as in > 1 hour discussion at the airport) to let you take the flight without a permit/visa in your passport. Source: this has happened to me on multiple occasions, and it is obviously very stressful. I'm a UK citizen, my wife is a non-EEA citizen. | |
| Feb 5, 2018 at 0:35 | comment | added | Crazydre | @phoog I never said you shouldn't bring the proof if you can, but that 1. you shouldn't cancel a trip over (hypothetically) losing or else not having access to that proof and 2. you're not systematically expected to present it upfront - in fact usually not at all. | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 23:25 | comment | added | phoog | @Coke "as a point of departure" or "as a starting point"? But as I've said before, anyone who ignores the UK's statement that travelers "need" to bring proof of relationship with them is being foolhardy. | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 20:21 | history | edited | hmakholm left over Monica | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 4, 2018 at 20:01 | comment | added | Crazydre | Like I said, actual practice at the border (at least at Heathrow T3 and T5) is that the Article 10 card and passport are sufficient som utgångspunkt as we say in Swedish (similar to "by default" but can't really translate it in an idiomatically accurate way into English) | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 19:37 | comment | added | hmakholm left over Monica | @Coke: I think the recommendation to carry a marriage certificate looks like reluctance in itself, when the intention of the directive is that a genuine article 10 card should be all the documentation one needs. | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 19:07 | comment | added | Crazydre | "the UK have been sort of reluctant to accept them" Any anecdotal evidence of this? I've spoken to the Border Force at Heathrow on the phone and they said that the passport and article 10/20 card is all that they expect you to present upfront. Now, if they suspect you of fraud, they may request a marriage/birth certificate as well, but it's not the standard thing for them to do. Anecdotal evidence here on TS confirms this as well | |
| Feb 4, 2018 at 15:49 | history | answered | hmakholm left over Monica | CC BY-SA 3.0 |