I will be staying in Slough and will be visiting London for one day with my family of 2 adults and 2 children.

A bit of looking around, and I came across this "Family Travelcard Same day return Offpeak travel" on http://www.thetrainline.com

London-Slough Family Travel Card

It appears to cover bus, tube, tram, as well as the journey from Slough to Victoria station and back, for just £29.20.

This seems a little too good to be true given the prices of other ticket types, so I'm guessing the "Off-Peak" is the catch: So how can I tell what are off-peak times? Do the tube journeys have to be off-peak too, and how can I find that information? Will I be turned away from either the train or tube station if I show up with that ticket at the wrong time? Or is the fact that I can select the times (radio buttons in screenshot) there mean the ticket is valid for those journeys. (e.g. in screenshot, the 8:57am time can't be selected so maybe that's not "off-peak")

The same deal is available at https://www.buytickets.greateranglia.co.uk

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Firstly, you may have confused the system by asking to travel to London Victoria, which is not where Slough trains arrive; these come into London Paddington (you see the "1 change" message above telling you that a tube journey from PAD to VIC will be required). That said, it is a good way of forcing the system to show you the family travelcard as an option.

The one-day travelcard (from outside London zones) is two tickets welded-together into a single piece of paper: a one-day off-peak travelcard for TFL, and an off-peak day return for the train company, and as such are subject to the conditions on both.

The one-day off-peak travelcard does indeed permit unlimited travel on buses, tubes, and trains (with the exception of Heathrow Express, and certain other services), Docklands Light Railway, and London Tramlink within the validity period and the boundary of zone 6. It also gives discounts on scheduled riverboat services and the Emirates Air Line (the cable car across the Thames near City Airport, which is jolly good fun if you can face travelling via a steel cable stretched right across a runway's flight path!).

TFL says that a one-day off-peak travelcard

can be used from 09:30 Mondays to Fridays, all day Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays, on the day(s) of validity and for any journey that starts before 04:30 the following day.

The restrictions on a one-day off-peak return train ticket (a cheap day return, as was), are now so baroque that they are the subject of cartoons in the national press. Even the national rail enquiry website says merely

Off-Peak Day Travelcards are valid for travel from whenever Off-Peak fares become available from your station

which is nearly useless, hence the level of humour. From Cambridge, where I live, I may take any train that arrives in London after 1000 Mon-Fri (and any train at weekends); this is not dissimilar to your experience, your earliest permissible train bing the 0914 at SLO, arrriving PAD at 0949. But the Cambridge one also has restrictions on the return journey; these depend on whether I depart from London Kings Cross or London Liverpool Street, so you would be well-advised to check your return journey also.

Note that these are open tickets, not advance purchase ones, so even though you will find it useful to specify your intended rail journeys in and out of London to confirm validity, the ticket as purchased is not linked to these specific journeys and can be used on any valid train.

If you do try to take a train on which the ticket is not valid, you may get lucky and be refused by the ticket barriers (of course, these sometimes refuse valid tickets also). If you are unlucky and do get on a non-valid train, and are caught, you will get a swingeing penalty fare, so do not do that if you can avoid it. Having a printout from a ticket-issuing website showing that your ticket is valid on the train you have taken is usually enough to convince the inspectors.

  • I have to say that is good value - unlimited travel on tubes/trams/etc all day after 9:30 + train in and out from Slough? That is just £2 more expensive than if we got Oyster cards each just for zones 1-3 (£7.70 each (one of us is aged 5)), and then we'd still have to make our way in... I'm worried if I book this I'll get there and be told "actually no, that's not how this works"!
    – komodosp
    Apr 8, 2017 at 11:26
  • As far as I know - and I use individual travelcards myself quite often - this is exactly how it works. Essentially, it's a heavy subsidy for using the network when nobody much wants to use it, ie, outside commuting times.
    – MadHatter
    Apr 8, 2017 at 12:50
  • If in doubt whether you can take a train, talk with one of the staff at the station before trying a ticket barrier. Those guys and girls do know the rules or will send you on to someone who does.
    – Willeke
    Apr 9, 2017 at 7:59
  • In my experience, they don't always know them very well. The number of times I have had to explain to Kings Cross barrier staff (because the barriers are also wrongly programmed) that the return half of an off-peak day return from Cambridge to a station outside the boundary of zone 6 is valid for departure from KGX during the evening peak is beyond counting. But I definitely accept that soliciting all inputs is good!
    – MadHatter
    Apr 9, 2017 at 9:23

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