Currently in Spain but ordered to leave. Reviewing an application which included photocopy of passport, someone found my entry stamp from a year ago, but failed to find the entrance stamp into U.K. within the ninety days (would have been 89 were it not for bus delays). I have other evidence beside the exit stamp (ATM records). Sent a letter to the hotel denying the application and ordering me out of Spain. Doesn't say out of Schengen, and last I heard, Schengen countries don't share data on entries and exits. But if I don't leave on my own and get "escorted" out, not only do I lose some flexibiity in where, I also get a police record, which is shared.

Someone asked for an image, but I don't see how to upload it. Putting it somewhere that identifies me is not going to happen. Downvote my paranoia if you wish. I read Spanish so I know what thye letter says.

It allows two months for appeal, but the appeal has to be done here, and the removal order is fifteen days. A local lawyer will appeal for free, but he's not available until eight days after I received the letter, fifteen days after it was written.

So I'm trying to figure out what to do if the appeal goes too slowly.

Ironically, I applied for NIE because multiple bankers said you can't open an account without it, and multiple realtors said you can't buy or rent without a bank account and an NIE. Other expats said the same things. But the day I got the letter, I signed a contract with neither at another realtor's office, and the next day a different banker said using a passport number instead of an NIE is fine.

Andorra has agreed to not admit anyone inadmissible to Spain. Monaco is part of Schengen. But it seems that I would be safe in Gibraltar, San Marino, or Vatican. Anyone here know a reason why that's not the case?

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  • "Found"? At the airport? At a police station? Why didn't you show them your UK stamp? – JonathanReez Feb 9 '17 at 16:02
  • Individual countries are free to define their immigration laws as they see fit. Andorra, Vatican, San Marino and Gibraltar are not signatories to the SCHENGEN agreement and/or are only considered de facto members. All you can do is file an appeal and wait. – user 56513 Feb 9 '17 at 16:05
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    You can redact your removal notice and upload it with a view to getting a higher quality answer. See meta.travel.stackexchange.com/questions/4089/… Normally we do Schengen refusals, but removals will work also. – Gayot Fow Feb 9 '17 at 16:23
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    @SheikPaul: Could you stop SHOUTING each time you mention Schengen, please? – Henning Makholm Feb 9 '17 at 17:21
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    Finding a qualified immigration lawyer to advise you seems like a prudent course of action. If the one who will work for free isn't available, is there one who works for money? – Zach Lipton Feb 9 '17 at 20:17

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