I was refused family visit visa early May (my first ever uk visa application) because of the reasons in the refusal letter. It was my first application and i made some silly mistakes that contributed to my refusal. So, the refusal was somehow justified. I, however, want to reapply given that my circumstances have changed considerably in the last 4 months. Please what are my chances of getting the visa.

  1. The ECO did not believe that my relationship with my wife (she has ILR) is genuine and subsisting. In addition, he said he didn't believe I'm related to my 1 year old daughter (British Citizen) as claimed. They are both resident in the UK. Her last visit was in Oct. 2014 and she left in Jan. 2015. We both attended the same University. So our relationship is not in doubt.

  2. Earlier this year, due to a drop in company revenue, salary was paid in half and the balance at a later date. So, the ECO took advantage of this and said my job didn't qualify as home tie. Although I was the architect of my own downfall. I stated the salary thing in my cover letter! Unbelievable. I thought I was being sincere.

I now want to reapply again to visit my wife and daughter.

I will be addressing the refusal points with:

  1. I have asked my wife to send our marriage certificate and our daughter's birth certificate. I will also add her flight tickets, a few wedding pictures and Skype call logs as proof of relationship.

  2. Things have since normalised at the office and salary is now paid in full.

  3. I will now be visiting for 18days.

Please, do i stand a chance of getting the visa? Is there anything i can add to increase my chances?

Also, can i use priority for the visa processing?

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I later applied for a spouse visa in November of the year I posted this question and it was approved. I have since moved to the UK.

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    Odd formulae! Did you submit this application personally to a VFS? And yes, need the second page because there's no refusal grounds and decision date.
    – Gayot Fow
    Aug 28, 2016 at 13:40
  • @GayotFow and MichaelHampton: Page 2 has been added. I submitted personally at VFS and did biometrics same day.
    – AJNinja
    Aug 28, 2016 at 14:20
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    Thanks, what post issued this if you don't mind my asking. And are your wife/daughter permanently settled in the UK (ILR)? I don't think your point 1 is going to do a whole lot.
    – Gayot Fow
    Aug 28, 2016 at 15:08
  • @GayotFow: it was issued in Sheffield. My wife has ILR, while my daughter has British citizenship.
    – AJNinja
    Aug 28, 2016 at 15:36
  • Note they used a different "Future Applications" formulae from this one for example travel.stackexchange.com/questions/77448/… Presumably your daughter's birth certificate came from the Registry Office, and are you listed as the bio father?
    – Gayot Fow
    Aug 28, 2016 at 17:23

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Given what you have described, the refusal notice is not altogether unreasonable. Your wife is settled in the UK with ILR and you have a child born there who acquired British citizenship from her mother. Your employment situation is not the best and you haven't been paid regularly. I assume that you and your wife cannot meet the financial hurdles in Appendix FM to bring you in as a spouse.

From their viewpoint it paints the perfect picture: you have a secondary agenda of family reunion and want to live in the UK as a spouse, but cannot qualify for that type of visa. So to avoid the qualifying hurdles in Appendix FM, you will enter the UK as a visitor and then go underground. According to the pattern, this would culminate in a derivative rights claim (they don't like those and try to turn them off early on).

Perhaps that's your plan, perhaps not. But for sure that's what they were thinking. Everybody in the world says it's not their plan to settle in the UK obviously, and to counteract it they will use any reasons they can however captious. That's why it's doubtful that your proposal #1 will make a lot of difference...

I have asked my wife to send our marriage certificate and our daughter's birth certificate. I will also add her flight tickets, a few wedding pictures and Skype call logs as proof of relationship.

They will not care about flight tickets and photos and Skype logs can be too easily forged. And at the end of the day, the best this evidence can do is support your claim to being married to your sponsor. But it does nothing at all to mitigate the refusal grounds...

(a) will leave the UK at the end of their visit; and

From the Visitor Rules

For under GBP 100, you could commission a DNA test to prove your daughter's relationship. It's not required and would be very extreme for a visitor application, but again proving direct lineage would not clear you of 4.2 (a) (cited above).

Your salary situation has been stable for 4 months, is it long enough to offset what they said about '...unless the circumstances of your application change'? How long before that was it unstable? ECO's think in terms of 6 months to a year on things like that.

And finally, against that backdrop, changing your proposed visit from 28 days to 18 days will not be much help. If you are planning to abscond (based on their viewpoint), you need a visa lasting for only 1 minute, just long enough to clear the primary control point at the airport. The so-called "best practices" advice is to set up your visit to be consistent with what you want to do and not what you think will make them happy. Visit duration should be consistent with lifestyle, employment circumstances, planned activities, and so on. The Standard Visitor Visa runs for 6 months anyway.

Your questions...

Please, do i stand a chance of getting the visa?

We don't take bets one way or the other and we cannot assess your chances without seeing lots of stuff and learning your personal circumstances. Nobody can.

Is there anything i can add to increase my chances?

Minimally you can wait until your income/employment has been stabilised for a convincing amount of time.

Secondarily your wife and child can visit you in your home country or in a 3rd country, they like stuff like that but by itself it will not carry the application.

Also, can i use priority for the visa processing?

If priority services are available at your VFS/VAC then generally yes but it depends upon the country and VFS within the country. At least you can PAY for priority. Your case is "complex" and will require the processing associated with complex cases. That obviates the possibility of anything happening quickly. Worse, they will keep the extra fee you paid to get prioritised.

  • Thanks for this detailed response. It captured everything. So in other words, are you saying someone in my situation cannot get a visiting visa to visit his wife and child?
    – AJNinja
    Aug 29, 2016 at 8:23
  • By the way, priority is not for decision making, it is simply for VFS to get your papers to the embassy faster and perhaps for some VIP services at the center (depends on the individual center). It has no bearing on the speed of the decision; as matter of fact no one can guarantee you anything in terms of a decision on your application. Aug 29, 2016 at 9:08
  • @BurhanKhalid: I disagree with you on Priority Service. This service allows you to have your visa application placed at the front of the queue, once it is received by the UK Visas and Immigration Decision Making. Important note: This service does not imply or guarantee in any way that by using the priority service you will be successful in your visa application. All visa applicants must meet the requirements of the UK immigration rules. Reference So, i perfectly understand what priority service is about.
    – AJNinja
    Aug 29, 2016 at 11:35

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