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I will travel to Mexico from Europe, with a transit in the US. I thought that my ESTA was enough, but then I learned that since I have no return flight booked, and Mexico being treated in the same way as the US for the purpose of ESTA, I need a visa or a return flight.

Would a bus ticket to Guatemala (or another country in Central America) also be a valid proof of my departure out of Mexico within 90 days or are these countries also assimilated to the US for the purpose of ESTA?

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  • @HenningMakholm Thanks -- I've deleted my comments. Jun 29, 2016 at 14:49

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It would be taking it too far that Mexico is "treated in the same as the US".

But even without going that far, it does look like you have a problem. One of the criteria for being eligible to enter the US under the VWP is that you have a "round trip ticket" that takes you somewhere else -- and for this particular purpose, contiguous territory (that is, Canada and Mexico) are not considered "somewhere else" enough.

The relevant rule is 8 CFR 217.2(c)(1) which says

Applicants arriving by air and sea. Applicants must arrive on a carrier that is signatory to a Visa Waiver Pilot Program Agreement and at the time of arrival must have a round trip ticket that will transport the traveler out of the United States to any other foreign port or place as long as the trip does not terminate in contiguous territory or an adjacent island; except that the round trip ticket may transport the traveler to contiguous territory or an adjacent island, if the traveler is a resident of the country of destination.

(emphasis added). This implements the statutory requirement in 8 USC 1187(a)(8). There's even a legalese definition of "round trip ticket":

Round trip ticket means any return trip transportation ticket in the name of an arriving Visa Waiver Pilot Program applicant on a participating carrier valid for at least 1 year, electronic ticket record, airline employee passes indicating return passage, individual vouchers for return passage, group vouchers for return passage for charter flights, and military travel orders which include military dependents for return to duty stations outside the United States on U.S. military flights. A period of validity of 1 year need not be reflected on the ticket itself, provided that the carrier agrees that it will honor the return portion of the ticket at any time, as provided in Form I-775, Visa Waiver Pilot Program Agreement.

Unless the bus to Guatemala is run by a "participating carrier" (which I very much doubt) there seems to be a definite risk that you will be determined not to qualify for entry under the VWP and thus be denied entry. Exactly what that would entail is not completely clear; there seems to be a chance that you'd just be escorted to the flight to Mexico you have a ticket for anyway, but it also appears to be a possibility that you'll be put on a flight back to Europe instead.

What's even worse is that the airline might not even allow you to board the flight to the US based on an ESTA, since they know the rules too, and according to their ticketing system what you have is definitely not the kind of "round trip ticket" required by 8 CFR 217.2(c)(1).

So unless you enjoy gambling you should try to secure an ordinary US visa before you travel.

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  • Wait, what's a "Visa Waiver Pilot Program applicant"? Jun 29, 2016 at 14:50
  • @DavidRicherby: The VWP was known as a "pilot program" in its first years (I remember it going by that name around 2000), and apparently the text of the CFR has not been updated to reflect the loss of "pilot". It still has that wording in the official PDF, but it's pretty certain that it refers to the VWP. Jun 29, 2016 at 14:59
  • OK. It was unclear to me, given the mention of airline employees later in the sentence, whether "pilot program" meant "experimental program" or "program for people who operate planes". Jun 29, 2016 at 15:01
  • Thank you for your answers. It is too late for me to get an ordinary US visa, the departure is next week. I don't really understand the definition of the round trip ticket. But you said that the bus to Guatemala is not such a ticket. Do you see any other way, like booking not a bus from Mexico to Guatemala but a flight ?
    – Catherine
    Jun 29, 2016 at 16:20
  • I think I need to by a ticket by a company figuring in this list: immihelp.com/visa-waiver-program/…
    – Catherine
    Jun 29, 2016 at 16:36

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