I'm a Russian national reapplying for UK general (6 month) visa. Unfortunately I treated my first application with unacceptable sloppiness and only now come to realize seriousness of consequences. Having that said, I'm going to quote a piece of refusal letter:

  • You have stated that it is your intention to visit UK for one week for tourism
  • You have stated that you are employed as ... for ... with salary .... per month. Your application does not demonstrate that you are employed as stated
  • You have submitted a one page bank letter from ... stating that there are available funds of ... $. This letter doesn't demonstrate the providence of the funds nor does it demonstrate that you are in receipt of any income from your claimed employment.
  • I am not satisfied that you are genuinely seeking entry to the UK as a visitor for the period and purpose as as stated or that you intend to leave the UK on completion of your visit. Paragraph 41 (i) and (ii).
  • I am therefore not satisfied that you have demonstrated that you will be able to maintain and accommodate yourself adequately in the UK or that you can meet the costs of your onward or return journey from the UK. I have therefore refused your application because I am not satisfied, on the balance of probabilities, that you meet all of the requirements of relevant Paragraph of the UK Immigration rules.

For the second application I'm collecting all documents possible, which are:

  • Proof letter from my employer, letter from employer stating that I have paid vacation for dates in question
  • Same bank statement + statement from another bank where I have more money
  • Transaction history for the period of half of the year from both banks
  • Aircraft tickets and hotel booking confirmation

I'm afraid of possible inconsistencies in first and second applications. In the first application I stated that I'm employed at BigFancyCorporation. And I do work there. But, BigFancyCorporation often hire new employees though some sidekick employment agency littleCo. (It's kind of popular situation here and I beg you to not go offtopic about acceptability of that).
I checked with both of them, and littleCo guys said that they can write a proof letter that I'm littleCo employee and mention there that I'm working for BigFancyCorporation. To be perfectly clear about my occupation - I've been to littleCo one time for one hour one year ago.

I would like to state in the second application same thing I did at first - that my employer is BigFancyCorporation. And attach proof letter with above mentioned content. I believe it's better than stating another employer in second application. It would just look like I've lied at the first time. I'm relying on your best judgements guys to figure out this problem.

Second question is simpler: How fresh must the documents be?

Especially, transaction histories. Because I would have to give them away for translation, it takes time. I couldn't find this information online.

  • @GayotFow Thanks for the opinion. This situation is inherently messed up. But I see you point.
    – Dmitri K
    Commented Mar 17, 2015 at 20:29
  • @GayotFow Do you have any info about allowed time gap between bank statements issue date and visa application date?
    – Dmitri K
    Commented Mar 17, 2015 at 21:17
  • Your employer is LittleCo, not BigFancyCorporation. They pay your wages, and it is them you have a contract with. If you say anything different you will put your application in jeopardy. You can say that they have a contract with BigFancyCorporation, but telling half-truths on your application will be a problem. Commented Mar 18, 2015 at 2:37
  • transaction histories for bank accounts. Be careful that there aren't any big deposists paid into them, other than salaries, near the visa application dates. That will more or less lead to refusals.
    – DumbCoder
    Commented Mar 18, 2015 at 10:04
  • @DumbCoder Histories are pretty consistent. Nothing but salary, except for 1 situation ~4 months ago, I have received payment for research fellowship. I believe this forces me to translate and attach contract (or part of it) with funding institution. What's yours opinion on that?
    – Dmitri K
    Commented Mar 18, 2015 at 10:33

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People who try to gloss over a previous discrepancy often find themselves in an awkward situation as the 'tangled web' grows bigger and bigger. They appreciate it more if you are straight up about it.

Your optimal strategy at this point is to identify the REAL company you work for. It may be different from what you wrote in your first application. It also may not sound as impressive as the company you previously said you work for.

After you identify the REAL company you work for, put their name down in question 5.2 of the application form. Then answer the remaining questions in Part 5 using your real company as the reference point.

You can then optionally go to Part 9 of the form and explain that there is an interlocking relationship between Big Company and Little Company and you felt qualified to identify Big Company as the employer of record but your recent experience with visa applications now leads you to think that Little Company is a more tenable fit.

You do NOT have to go into a lot of detail about Big Company's "справка" being more impressive because they are not idiots and will know that already. They will be happier to clear the air without having to read a long-winded (and contrived), not to mention transparently crap excuse. Just a very brief, clean, blameless statement of clarification.

For your other question about how new the documents should be, there are no guidelines for visitor applications (unlike the very rigorous requirements for PBS applications) and every other Russian applicant solves the problem, otherwise we would never have visitors from Russia. They already know how long it takes to get something translated, and if your documents are reasonably current there will be no problems in that domain. Also, a one week visit looks out of whack. Most people need about 2 to 4 weeks to have a proper visit. Think about explaining that also.

Finally, you need to fix the provenance of funds issue they identified. It's an absolute, hands-down show-stopper and they will refuse again if you do not fix it.

Note: Thank you for including the refusal formulae in your question!

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    I followed your suggestion and stated in 5.2 that my employer is LittleCo. I didn't attach any clarifications in section 9. But I had my "справка" from LittleCo with the mention that I work for BigCorporation by outstaffing contract between LittleCo and BigCorporation. This document also stated that I've got a paid vacation for this specific week. All possible data from my banks was translated and attached. I got my visa today. Your advices influenced process of my case preparation strongly, you made this day happen. Thanks.
    – Dmitri K
    Commented Apr 9, 2015 at 9:59
  • @wf34, play it by the book from here forward and you'll be fine
    – Gayot Fow
    Commented Apr 9, 2015 at 10:10
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    I have no idea about impact on immigration requests, but when I worked under a similar arrangement I had a BigCorporation ID card (and door pass), marked as contractor, but making quite clear where my work took place. Perhaps a photocopy thereof would be useful. Commented Oct 19, 2016 at 17:16
  • @AndrewLazarus I have a repurposed pretzel jar almost filled with them, LOL. Yes, whatever helps to satisfy them.
    – Gayot Fow
    Commented Oct 19, 2016 at 17:40

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