# What is the closest city I can go from a bullet train departing from Beijing?

In my country, we don't have high-speed bullet trains and I have no previous experience riding a bullet train either. I have a one week vacation in Beijing (both arrival and departure in Beijing PEK airport).

• What is the shortest city that there are bullet trains operating from Beijing?

Trains to Shanghai take about 5 hours each way, so that is too much just to experience the train itself. Are there any cities that takes about 1-3 hours each way?

Sorry if this question seems lack of research. I tried with some cities but I could not find any reliable sites to determine if the train is bullet train or not.

*by bullet train, I meant those trains that go ~300 km/h.

Pic showing example of handheld GPS working on a train:

• If you're interested in "fast trains", there's something to be said for taking a conventional High Speed one to Shanghai, then the short but super quick ride on the Shanghai Maglev Train! – Gagravarr Sep 22 '14 at 23:06
• @Gagravarr - I see you pipped me to the post and commented re Maglev while I was completing my answer :-). Independent recommendations - I didn't see yours until I'd posted mine. I agree - the Shanghai Maglev experience is great, even though rather short. – Russell McMahon Sep 22 '14 at 23:25
• And PS, don't forget to take a mobile with GPS, if available. Or ask other passengers to try theirs! GPS sometimes won't work inside a train (because of this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage effect) but it's great fun if it does. – Fattie Sep 23 '14 at 6:45
• Thanks Gagravarr, RussellMcMahon and JoeBlow. I have gps on my phone but not sure if it would be able to calculate the speed of 300km/h! A car is technically a Farade cage also, and regular phone gps works perfect in them. – Ayesh K Sep 23 '14 at 6:55
• See my added "Maglev speed estimation" – Russell McMahon Sep 23 '14 at 9:03

The trains you want are either "G trains" or "C trains".
They are both rated at up to 350 kph but G designations are for longer distances and C for shorter routes.
Some information on types and speeds here

"Shorter" is relative. You can get 2 hours G train journeys.
The above page notes

• G – High-Speed Electric Multiple Units (EMU) Train This is the fastest running for long distance in China, the top speed of which could reach 350km/h. Currently, the G-train could finish the 1,068-kilometers Wuhan-Guangzhou High-Speed Railway in 3 hours, the 301-kilometers Shanghai-Nanjing High-Speed Railway in 73 minutes and the 458-kilometers Zhengzhou-Xian High-Speed Railway in 2 hours.

BUT - the dfinitive guide to how to travel to anywhere from anywhere by train is "The man in seat 61" - be sure to find out where the name comes from :-).

This Seat-61 page tells you just about all there is to know about Chinese train travel.

For a short (75 miles) sharp (30 minutes!) trip (150 mph average) look about half way down that long page for Beijing - Tianjin by train where it says:

• High-speed 350 km/h C-category trains (sometimes known as Hexie trains) link Beijing South Station & Tianjin every 10-20 minutes, taking just 30 minutes for the 120 km (75 miles) journey. Simply use www.chinahighlights.com/china-trains to find specific train times. The fare is around RMB 58 (£6 or $9) for a 2nd class seat, RMB 69 (£7 or$10) in a first class seat. It's easy enough to buy tickets at the station on the day of travel.

There will be other routes, but that seems to suit your requirement well.

MAGLEV!!!

For the fastest of all journeys you could tale a G train to Shanghai and THEN take the "Maglev" train to the Pudong International airport. Under a 15 minute journey as I recall but daytime speeds of up to 430 kph (they say). The onboard speed gauge and actual train speed seem to not always quite match so actual speed may vary but you will find it very very very fast and noticeably faster than anything else. Cars on the adjacent motorway crawl along at 100 kph as you leap upon them from behind (figuratively anyway) and hurtle past in seconds. Marvellous !. I once got to travel the route 3 times in one day due to travel circumstances. Yee ha :-).

Strangely, Seat-61 seems to not mention the Maglev - maybe it's not considered a train if it floats in the air with no wheels :-).

Maglev journey video here - looks so smooth it's almost boring. Great fun in practice. Wikipedia page

Note that maximum speeds vary with time of day due to noise considerations.
According to the Wikipedia page, full speed runs are only from 9-10:45 am and 3-3:45 pm.
Check current arrangements when travelling.

Maglev speed estimation:

I tried using photos and vehicles on a motorway to estimate speed.
If you estimate vehicles as travelling at maximum speed limit you can note the distances they travel per frame and/or per time and compare this to how long the train takes to cover the same distance. There is a significant amount of uncertainty due to parallax errors, different positions of view and deciding where the train is relative to the roadway in any given photo. It gave me results of "about 4 x car speed" which should be 'about correct'. My DSLR camera will take 12 frames per second when desired, which helps maximise material to take comparison photos from.

I have used this method with reasonable (apparent) success in the past to estimate vehicle speeds on motorways either overtaking us at at high speed or approaching.
For overtakers you simply estimate the time taken for you and them to reach a then distant point starting from the moment they pass you. For oncoming traffic similar but rearranged. Works to within error of estimation of distant location, timing and your mean speed.

• Thank you very much Russell. Tianjin seems to be the perfect fit :) That Maglev train looks awesome! I won't be able to go to Shanghai but if I managed to go there someday, that's going to be the very first thing to try out. Once again thanks a lot for this valuable information. – Ayesh K Sep 23 '14 at 0:05
• Wow so a maglev runs between the airport and downtown. When did they open that sucker? Cheers.. Ah, 2004. – Fattie Sep 23 '14 at 6:51
• Ive been on that train and you'd never guess you were moving that fast. – paqogomez Sep 23 '14 at 14:04
• Admittedly I haven't been in a high-speed train yet, but I guess one wouldn't notice a train passing the opposite way. If both trains move 430 km/h, that will be 860km/h relative velocity. That's 240m/s! Miss one second and the the other train has passed! But when you look at the horizon, it will be almost still... No wonder the guy behind seat61 is that enthusiastic :) – Ayesh K Sep 23 '14 at 14:21
• @AyeshK "Not noticing" does not happen. The trains are shaped as they are in front to deflect the air. Two such deflectors passing at 800 kph net relative speed results in a large acoustic event. There is a solid bang and thump. || Point video camera out inner side window at an angle. Set SLR to fastest frame rate. Have video camera running. Press SLR shutter button at the first hint of a grey ghost rushing on you. Bng! - kawhump kawhump kwhump kwhump ... gone. Magic. Release SLR shutter button :-). – Russell McMahon Sep 24 '14 at 5:22

If you just want to experience going on the high speed train, then the trip form Beijing to Tianjin and back is idea for you. It takes just 30 minutes and Tianjin an interesting city to visit too.

Uniquely, the trains of the Beijing-Tianjin route have an additional class - Premier Class - which is one level higher than first class. In premier class your are seated in the front compartment with just a glass partition between you are the driver. The centre chair in the above photo is the train driver's seat. You can watch him work while you enjoy the journey. Premier costs just 28 RMB or so more than first class so worth the upgrade.

• Thank you so much for this! I did my first trip, but I couldn't take the train. I have plans to try this in my second trip next month. I'm definitely doing this! – Ayesh K Mar 9 '15 at 12:50
• @Ayesh K you need to book early to get the good seats as the do sell out, especially at peak times. – Rincewind42 Mar 10 '15 at 0:46