Why is Amtrak so expensive in the Northeast US? I just looked up a train from New London, CT to Boston, MA (a 2-hour car trip): the round trip cost for two people was $200. Traveling by rail in Europe is significantly cheaper. Any idea why?

  • Due to Barack Obama's embrace of high-speed rail, Republican opposition to rail is now often seen as essentially conservative, and Republican governors oppose rail projects to boost their conservative image. economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2013/08/…
    – user27540
    Mar 10, 2015 at 20:17
  • The only states which could be described as reddish along the NEC are Virginia and New Hampshire, and their contributions or lack thereof can hardly be blamed for the cost of rail travel along the entire corridor. Indeed, Virginia expanded its Amtrak subsidy under the previous governor, who like the legislature is Republican. So this barely qualifies as a comment, much less an answer to the original question.
    – choster
    Mar 10, 2015 at 22:07

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As noted elsewhere, you cannot take the price of a single itinerary on a single route on a single date and make conclusions about rail travel on a single service compared to rail travel on an entire continent.

Even if you could, it would not hold. I tried some bookings for 27 February at 0800. Amtrak's Acela Express would be $78. SNCF quotes me 70 EUR (~96 USD) for Paris to Brussels, DB quotes me 59 EUR (~81 USD) for Hamburg to Berlin, and a Hikari train on the Tokaido Shinkansen from Shizuoka to Shinagawa is 6,180 JPY (~61 USD). But on a short trip like this, there is no reason to take the Acela, as the Northeast Regional is almost as fast, and would only cost $36.

But Amtrak costs what it does fundamentally because the price of transportation depends on supply and demand. While the balance can be distorted by things like subsidies, the constraints on both explain why a flight from DC to New York costs as much as a flight from DC to Los Angeles, even though it is only one-tenth the distance. And in this respect, Amtrak remains broadly competitive with other modes of transportation along the NEC.

Ten years ago I never took Amtrak; why would I when I could get from Downtown DC to Midtown Manhattan, door to door, within 3 hours, for $116 round trip on the Shuttle? Nowadays, with more rigorous airport security, capacity reductions, higher fuel prices, and transit service cuts among things, I would allot at least 4½ hours and $340. To drive would also take 4-5 hours, and entail almost $60 in tolls and $50 in gasoline, plus the stress of driving I-95 and the New Jersey Turnpike and then finding parking. So Amtrak offering me a round trip for $260 is compelling. (yes, there is the bus as well, but it's as uncomfortable as the plane and as slow as Amtrak and as dangerous as driving, so naturally you should expect a discount.)

And while Amtrak does not practice price discrimination as ruthlessly as the airlines do, this may partly explain why your NLC-BOS ticket seems overpriced: they don't want someone riding NLC-BOS if they can sell the same seat for more profit to a NYP-BOS passenger.

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    Are buses as dangerous as driving?
    – gerrit
    Feb 22, 2014 at 2:13
  • @gerrit On average, probably.
    – choster
    Feb 22, 2014 at 3:02
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    @ChrisMueller The UK is a very densely populated country & I wouldn't say train travel is cheap at all.
    – Simon
    Feb 22, 2014 at 18:06
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    @choster Buses are about 10x safer that driving. travel.stackexchange.com/a/86483
    – Carl
    May 17, 2018 at 15:43
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    @Vince There's actually been little to no proof that Chinatown buses were dangerous, now with increased federal regulation even less so. They're different so they feel dangerous. There's a lot of controversy around the crackdown. youtu.be/ft8-ZaugYSU?t=5m
    – Carl
    May 17, 2018 at 15:47

Travelling by train in Europe is not necessarily cheaper, so your premise is false.

Some examples on flexible tickets:

  • Bern-Geneva (160 km) will cost you 49 CHF per direction per person, meaning 200 CHF = 225 USD
  • Flexible Madrid - Ciudad Real (186 km) round trip is almost 75€ per person (two persons: 150€ = 206 USD).
  • Flexible Norrköping - Stockholm (162 km) round trip with the fast train is 1256 SEK, for 2 people that means 385 USD. Non-flexible tickets are much cheaper, perhaps a quarter of the cost, in particular with slow trains and when booked early.

If you want cheaper train tickets, travel more slowly, book earlier, or travel at off-peak hours.

  • Indeed, I've had a friend who travelled (ok first class, but still) at peak hours at short notice from London to York, costing over 1000 pounds for what's a roughly 3 hour trip.
    – Mark Mayo
    Feb 22, 2014 at 0:42
  • It's just that the number 75 or 150 is a lot easier to swallow psychologically then 200 :)
    – Karlson
    Feb 22, 2014 at 1:55
  • I guess I had travelling around the Netherlands in mind. A one way ticket from Rotterdam to Groningen (a ~3 hour trip) costs 25.40 EUR. Multiply by 4 for 2 people 2 ways gives 101.60 EUR. Multiply by the exchange rate of 1.37 gives $140. Not quite the factor of two that I had in mind, but still significantly cheaper. At any rate, I think the correct answer as to why trains are generally cheaper has something to do with population density. The Netherlands is one of the most densely populated European countries. Feb 22, 2014 at 14:02
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    @ChrisMueller Also, tracks are publicly owned and maintained in The Netherlands. I'm not sure about the exact financing model in either The Netherlands or the northeast USA, but that might contribute to the difference.
    – gerrit
    Feb 22, 2014 at 22:31

I am somewhat surprised no one has mentioned another reason: the fairly short distances and high speeds (by North American standards) in the Northeast Corridor make Amtrak feasible for businessmen on expense accounts. It's not an accident that the expensive Acela (which only beats the regular train by 30–40 minutes Washington to NYC) has only Business and First Class seating. Since they aren't paying for the ticket, Amtrak can charge them more.


(Warning: Much of this answer is opinion, but I think that will be true of any answer to this question.)

(EDITED to remove the point I was mistaken about.)

For many years, the US base assumption has been private car, followed by airline if you can afford it or intercity bus if you can't, with intercity rail a distant third. The passenger rail system receives little to no government support compared to the highway system. (Which is one of several reasons we mostly don't have true high-speed rail yet.) The history of how we got here is complicated, but that's where it stands.

Commuter rail lines are better supported, heavily used, and much more reasonably priced. That may again be a matter of population density, and of commuter traffic jams making non-roadway solutions more attractive.

At least the Northeast Corridor has fairly regular rail service, and has "higher-speed" trains through the BosWash section. Other areas and longer runs are often operating on a single train per day.

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    Freight trains have priority over passenger trains This is false. In reality, Freight rail operators are required under federal law to give dispatching preference to Amtrak trains, even on freight-company owned track. This little-known law has started to be enforced recently, leading to a vast improvement in train reliability. Wikipedia has more info.
    – gerrit
    Feb 22, 2014 at 22:33
  • Interesting; I'm willing to believe I was misinformed on that one. Though empirical evidence is that Amtrack isn't getting much, if any, benefit from that law... and the rest of my comments/rant remain valid.
    – keshlam
    Feb 22, 2014 at 22:36
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    Amtrak owns most of its rail on the NEC, and true high speed rail would similarly require new infrastructure independent of standard rail. As for commuter rail, many of the commuter rail lines along the NEC lease their rail and their stations from Amtrak. But even if everything you claimed were true, it still doesn't explain why Amtrak trains are priced as they are.
    – choster
    Feb 23, 2014 at 4:20
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    @keshlam -- as someone who is reasonably conversant with (western) US RR dispatching, I can tell you that the computer systems prefer passengers over freight, and dispatchers will generally do so given the choice. However, neither law nor the otherwise God-like power of a train dispatcher will help you when you are stuck behind 8000' of coal drag on a Current of Traffic subdivision where the longest siding's 6500' and a hand-throw at that! Dec 3, 2014 at 3:00
  • @UnrecognizedFallingObject: Thanks, again, for the correction. I should probably delete that paragraph.
    – keshlam
    Dec 3, 2014 at 3:03

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