I'm planning to travel to the Netherlands, Bulgaria and Turkey. I'll be in Netherlands for 4 days, Bulgaria for 4 and Turkey for 2. I'm applying for a Schengen visa for the Netherlands. Considering that Bulgaria and Turkey are not in the Schengen Area (but accept Schengen Visas for entry), will the duration of the visa be determined by only the Netherlands leg of the trip? Ideally I would want the visa to be valid for at least 10 days to include the entire trip.

  • Spain is not part of the trip anymore? If you are unable to obtain a multiple-entry Schengen visa valid for the whole trip, you might need a Bulgarian visa in this scenario. See also travel.stackexchange.com/questions/13242/…
    – Relaxed
    Oct 15, 2013 at 9:59
  • travel.stackexchange.com/questions/5538/… might be of interest as well.
    – Relaxed
    Oct 15, 2013 at 10:08
  • Since Bulgaria just requires a valid schengen visa, will I need a multiple entry visa? Will the dutch authorities consider my trip to Bulgaria as grounds to give me a multiple entry visa? Yeah, Spain is out. I need to be in BG during the week and then Istanbul is pretty close :)
    – tapan
    Oct 15, 2013 at 14:12
  • My understanding is that once you leave the Schengen area (or any country really) where you were on a single-entry visa, you don't have a valid Schengen visa anymore (i.e. you could not return to the Schengen area). It's also obviously the case if the visa is set to expire on that date as well. But I still have no idea about the rules in Bulgaria or Turkey, the best might be to ask their consulate about that or request a visa to be on the safe side (provided it's practical from a financial/delay/etc. point of view).
    – Relaxed
    Oct 15, 2013 at 14:41
  • Ok, got it. I think it's probably something that I should get clarified with the Dutch/Bulgarian embassy.
    – tapan
    Oct 15, 2013 at 16:35

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As far as I understand as @Annoyed said Bulgaria and Turkey are not part of Schengen area right now. Even though you enter those countries, it's considered as you exit Schengen area and if you only have single-entry Schengen visa you might have a problem entering Schengen area again. I used to do this when I entered Croatia which they also accept any holders of Schengen Visa I got stamped at the border. This means that I exited Schengen area and entered Croatia.

So to answer your question since those countries are not part of Schengen visa, it will not be considered in your visa process. You might only get a single-entry-4-day Schengen visa from the embassy at the very worse case.


Please also note that according to the following:

  1. Holders of valid common Schengen visas who have exhausted the permitted number of entries and duration of stay on their common Schengen visas will only be allowed to enter Bulgaria or the purpose of return transit.

in your case you would have to either get a multiple-entry visa, or alter your itinerary as Netherlands - Turkey - Bulgaria - return (which makes Bulgaria your return transit country). Latter would be more tricky and require more explanation to your airline; success is not guaranteed.

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