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When travelling from the UK-Portugal, my travel partner and I were both told the usual message:

“Turn airplane mode on for your mobile devices”

My partner accidentally only turned their phone onto Do Not Disturb, when approaching to land they realised they had been receiving messages throughout the flight and then immediately turned Airplane Mode on.

Would this cause any real risk/worry or even bring the plane down? I wasn’t sure if we should apologise to the pilot for any interference or inconvenience this might have caused.

What could have actually happened?

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    They do indeed: aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/2021/…
    – cyco130
    Mar 2, 2020 at 10:12
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    Other people know this better than me, but in my opinion if there was a real danger, cell phones would not be permitted on the airplane. TSA confiscates water.
    – emory
    Mar 2, 2020 at 13:05
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    Not the answer you are looking for but what it did was draining the battery pinging all the towers at 900 km/h. Mar 2, 2020 at 15:16
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    I'd be willling to bet that most passengers don't bother complying with this, and the FAA isn't bothered about customers using phones throughout all phases of a flight (faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=15254) so the only reason for this still to persist is perhaps that it's thought that passengers will pay more attention to flight safety information if they're not making phone calls.
    – Strawberry
    Mar 2, 2020 at 17:26
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    @Strawberry not entirely. There's legal FAA rules around transmitting devices. Can't possibly certify every single device/phone/etc, so legally, just in case, it's best to turn them off (and that's the law, usually). Also having tested wifi on a plane, we did see interference, and also, only a few on each flight accidentally transmitting. Not most.
    – Mark Mayo
    Mar 3, 2020 at 0:45

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From my experience, you shouldn't worry too much and most likely your partner was not the only one on board who didn't put their phone into Airplane Mode.

The question "what could have happened?" Not much either. Electronics you are allowed to bring on board don't cause direct danger to the systems in an aircraft. If phones would put aircrafts in an unsafe situation, then safety regulations would most likely ban passengers from bringing their phones onboard.

The pilot or co-pilot however could have potentially heard an unpleasant noise through his headphones as phones are trying to find network connectivity. It might interfere, not block radio contact. They won't take any (legal) action against you or your partner but be aware that pilots should be focused at all times, but especially during take off and landing.

Also note that some aircrafts do allow you to use network connectivity (Bluetooth, LTE or WiFi above the height of 10,000ft).

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    This should probably be confirmed on Aviation.SE, but (modern) aircraft systems including the headphones should be immune to interfering signals, including that of cellphones.
    – Mast
    Mar 2, 2020 at 7:40
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    You experience is totally anecdotal, I am also not aware of any problems because of people using their phones during flights but that doesn't mean that it never happened. Please give some credit to the people making the regulations.
    – Rsf
    Mar 2, 2020 at 8:42
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    @Rsf "Please give some credit to the people making the regulations." Speaking of regulations, it seems that EASA (European Union Aviation Safety Agency) allows electronic devices to remain On and Connected throughout the flight ... without the need to be in ‘Airplane Mode’ but only if the airline has conducted a safety assessment process (for obvious reasons).
    – kiradotee
    Mar 2, 2020 at 10:27
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    @ghellquist Please read the accepted answer to this question on Aviation to disspell the rumors.
    – FreeMan
    Mar 2, 2020 at 14:09
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    Some years (maybe ten or so) ago I was on a plane that was bound to exit but it did not leave. Some flight attendants came a few seats before me and talked to the passengers, then one of the passengers checked his coat in the overhead luggage bin, produced a phone and apparently shut it down. Shortly after that the plane left. So it is completely possible to have noticeable effects. Granted, maybe modern airplanes are better shielded (but airplanes have a long operational life) and probably the effect was worse for the location of the phone, but something did happen.
    – SJuan76
    Mar 2, 2020 at 17:17
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Tests have shown that the average commercial flight has around 40 cell phones still active. Obviously, there is no impact (aside from your battery being badly drained).

Most experts agree that there is probably zero impact, but nobody wants to take the risk to officially claim so (and be held responsible), and nobody wants to pay for the huge effort of verifying it formally, so the rule will stay.

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    just adding for anyone surprised by the "battery being badly drained" part: your phone's transmit strength is directly proportional to how far away the nearest tower is. if you're far from a tower, you phone needs to "scream" (i.e. use more electricity to pump out a stronger transmission) to be heard. Mar 2, 2020 at 18:00
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    That's interesting.. have you got sources for this?
    – K. Morgan
    Mar 2, 2020 at 18:24
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    40? I demand evidence on that. Did lots of wifi testing for an Australian airline, we'd spot phones left on regularly, but not 40, not even half that
    – Mark Mayo
    Mar 3, 2020 at 0:38
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    I mean sources for: > Tests have shown that the average commercial flight has around 40 cell phones still active. > Most experts agree that there is probably zero impact,
    – K. Morgan
    Mar 3, 2020 at 11:17
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    @Mark What kind of plane did you do the tests on? In a full 747-400 with 500 passengers, having 40 active phones wouldn't surprise me at all.
    – Voo
    Mar 4, 2020 at 9:32
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My phone has personally connected to a mobile network of a country I was flying over at least on one occasion, as I have received roaming welcome text messages upon landing to my destination welcoming me to the country I never actually landed to!

I was flying from Greece to the UK and was welcomed to Germany, Luxembourg and Belgium. And I've never visited any of those countries at that time.

Now this was in Europe where roaming is free for me but if it wasn't, I'm not so sure if I wouldn't have incurred any charges. So even if you're not turning airplane mode on, I guess it might be safe to turn the data off / roaming data off.

Also, this newspaper article will let you to believe that your phone might be able to connect to a satellite network (which comes with a significant price tag). I am not sure that's what happened to me, but thought would mention it too.

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    Pretty sure you'd need special equipment to connect to satellite network. Note that the 10km height of the flight is pretty insignificant compared to the orbital distances of the satellites, which will be at least 300km. Mar 2, 2020 at 10:03
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    @TomášZato-ReinstateMonica I thought that in the article they meant ships and planes can connect to a satellite and, similarly to sharing your wifi on your phone with a hotspot, they would be able to share the phone network with you. "Haines’s phone signal was automatically relayed from aircraft antenna via satellite to a ground network operated by AeroMobile." That was my interpretation and I of course can be wrong with that.
    – kiradotee
    Mar 2, 2020 at 10:17
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    @OscarBravo just to be clear, I have done this once on that single flight 2 years ago out of 54 flights I have taken so far, potentially by accident, it has indeed been a while ago. Now, I might be reading too much behind the lines of your message but forgive me for saying there's a good advice the previous speaker of the House of Commons in the UK has shared, using his own words "calm, take up yoga you'll find it beneficial man".
    – kiradotee
    Mar 2, 2020 at 12:10
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    connecting a cellphone to a satellite is not possible. different frequency ranges are used, and different encoding chips are needed. if someone claims that happened, he simply has no idea what he is talking about.
    – Aganju
    Mar 2, 2020 at 18:26
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    @Aganju - it's explained a little more clearly in the linked article: Haines’s phone signal was automatically relayed from aircraft antenna via satellite to a ground network operated by AeroMobile. So apparently the airplane runs a microcell that emulates a cellular base station and uses a satellite network for connectivity. And is horrendously expensive. So it's not quite accurate to describe it as a "satellite system", it's more of a "satellite connected cellular network".
    – Johnny
    Mar 3, 2020 at 7:38
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I've answered similarly on another question about on taxiing and landing.

From the physical, every single transmitting device on a plane has to be certified to legally fly on the plane in transmitting mode. Most devices 'probably' won't interfere, but even adding a wifi router onboard takes hours of testing, compliance, and certification (source: I was on the Qantas wifi programme team). Since they can't possibly certify every single variant of mobile phone, it's easier to just say 'turn it to airplane mode'. There's a theoretical possibility the signals could interfere, but it's unlikely - but thus the testing required. We've seen interference in our testing before.

What could have actually happened? Physically, not much, probably. From a legal point, If you forget, or don't bother (and our scanners could see this happening on almost every flight), it almost certainly won't make a difference, but you are technically transmitting onboard an aircraft with a non-certified/compliant device, which is illegal in many countries.

You're also meant to legally always follow instructions of the flight staff. They might seem like just friendly hosties, but there are serious consequences available in most countries for disobeying instructions of the flight crew.

Short answer: If you landed safely, don't worry about it. Try to double check next time though.

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Would this cause any real risk/worry or even bring the plane down?

If it was this easy to bring a plane down, we would be in deep trouble. There's plenty of things that generate more interference than a cellphone. Heck, there's a RADAR right on the plane's nose.

Note that the rule disallowing cellphone usage on a flight is usually not issued by the aviation regulation body but by the radio frequency regulation body. E.g. in the US, it is the FCC, not the FAA, that forbids cellphone use.

The reason is that a cellphone that is this high in the air but still "relatively" close to the ground has a large number of cell towers in line-of-sight. However, there is a speed limit built into various cellphone technologies (e.g. GSM only works for relative speeds less than 250kph between tower and handset, otherwise the packets are "stretched" or "squished" too much to fit into their designated time slots). Also, while you might have line-of-sight to many towers, you will only have enough power to reach a few of them.

Your phone will still try, though, and thus block frequencies and time slots for many more other users than what would happen if you were on the ground and trying to connect to only one or two towers.

This is also why using Bluetooth is allowed, for example, and why using your WiFi is allowed but only when the airplane's WiFi is active: Bluetooth has much lower power (it is designed to work over only a couple of meters), and both Bluetooth and WiFi devices have power regulation that will lower the transmit power to only the minimum necessary to achieve a stable connection. So, if you connect to the plane's WiFi or your Bluetooth headset, the power will be set such that your transmission never leaves the airplane.

The same applies to airplanes that offer in-flight cellphone service: the way it works is that the plane has a cellphone base station on board, and since that station will always have a better signal than any station on the ground, your phone will never try to connect to them and in fact never even increase its power to a point where it could connect.

The real answer to your question is thus:

What could have actually happened?

In many jurisdictions failure to comply with signs on the aircraft and instructions from the crew is illegal, so your travel partner broke the law. While the possibility is remote, your partner could be prosecuted.

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While there's little risk to the plane equipment, which needs to be able to handle interference, you're risking draining your battery. Out of airplane mode, the phone will keep trying to connect to cell towers, but most likely without success. This will drain your battery. Finding yourself with a dead cellphone after landing sounds highly undesirable.

This applies to other situations where your phone is unable to connect - in underground places (like clubs/bars) or when hiking. It's best to turn on airplane mode if you don't need it.

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  • That's true, and failing to hit the energy-efficient 4G towers, it will repeatedly shout out to 3G and 2G towers, which takes a great deal more power. That's why in poor service areas your cell phone burns up its battery so fast. Mar 4, 2020 at 14:50
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Most if not all commercial airplanes have extremely high quality parts that are very well isolated against interference - nothing could've happened.


Say the pilot accidentially disconnects the headset while receiving instructions then the pilot would ask to have them repeated and wouldn't act on a guess.

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There is probably little danger to the aircraft systems. However the cellular system capacity is based on re-using frequencies; cellular handsets communicate line-of-sight to nearby towers and then the frequency is used by other cell sites that are out of range. When you have a cellular phone operating in an aircraft that phone has line-of-sight to many more cells and occupies bandwidth on them, thus reducing the overall system call capacity.

This isn't "dangerous" per se, but it is a bit rude.

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There are two significant areas - not what you think.

Interference with cell-phone towers

Cell phone technology puts a staggering number of radio transceivers sharing surprisingly little bandwidth. How does this work? By reducing transmit power, and having more and smaller cell towers. That's a big part of 3G/4G/5G. In the old days, an AMPS cell phone might have had 20 miles of signal radius. Now if your 4G phone is 1 mile from a tower, it down-tunes to 1 mile of radius. Your phone speaks softly, because it doesn't need to shout.

That way someone else 2 miles away can use that same bandwidth, which they couldn't under the older systems. However, if you're in a bad reception zone, your phone may punch it up high power with 10 miles of throw. That means no one else in a 10 mile radius can use that frequency: your phone is "stepping on their signal".

So there you are, at 7 miles of altitude. Your signal has to punch through seats, carpets, several layers of aluminum, a bunch of mixed cargo, and the fact that the cell antennas are aimed at the ground not the sky (so attenuated)... then make it 7-10 miles (albeit line-of-sight) to a cell tower. So your phone will punch it up to high power: it will be shouting.

That means you're reaching several towers at once, in nearly equal strength since it's line-of-sight and mostly "up", and sweeping maybe a 7 mile radius on the ground with that loud signal, so about 150 square miles. That frequency is unusable in that entire area, because you are using it, and stepping on any other signal that tries to be transmitted.

The tower system is designed to "hand-off" your cell phone signal to the next tower, as you travel... by land ... at sane speeds such as 70 MPH. On the ground, it figures out which tower to hand you off to based on your directionality and which other towers you get good signal from. But in the air, it's very unclear: you have good signals to towers all over the place - should your next tower be east, north or west? Further, this handoff is occurring much more often than the system is designed for, because of your 500 mph speed.

So a cell phone in the sky confounds and overloads the cellular networks.

Lithium battery fires

The closest real life gets to a horror movie is fire on an airplane. It's nightmare fuel for any pilot. There have been several incidents with massive loss of life on the runway, after a successful landing -- take Saudia 163, the plane screeches to a halt, firemen line up to help people down the slides, and the door ... never ... opens. There have been more incidents where crews detected smoke, but dawdled or favored a convenient airport, and that delay allowed fire to destroy the flight controls. UPS 6 (which could've made it to an Iranian island), Swissair 111, Air Canada 797, etc.

There is an aviation safety reporting system for crews to report genuine safety issues. It's not anonymous but reports are protected by law. NASA, who runs the system, has done aggregate analysis of risks relating to cell phones. From their report, the #1 risk is battery fire.

In fact, that's why there's a watt-hour limit on the size of accessory battery boosters you can bring onto an airplane.

They do have containment methods for burning consumer devices, but that is not a cure-all: Fire is a wildcard. You never know for sure what fire is going to do, when combined with all the random things consumers bring onto airplanes, and that consumers do. Imagine if a customer tries to self-manage the burning cell phone by throwing it into a galley trash can. Fire + panic = anything can happen.

Now, this seems hypocritical, since lots of consumer devices contain lithium batteries. But cell phones are the most prevalent, and the most likely to be operating unusually (cranking up the transmitter to max, as discussed).

And keep in mind, aviation has a long track record of underestimating the threat of fire. So over-reaction it may be, but the alternative has not worked out well for aviation.

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  • I'm skeptical of the "fires" issue. Obviously lithium battery fires are a problem, but I'm not sure I believe that airplane mode would have any measurable effect on their incidence. How much power does the 4G/5G transmitter and receiver actually draw, even at maximum, relative to what's already being used by the CPU, display and wifi? Anecdotally, my phone uses somewhat more battery when I'm in a marginal service area, but not nearly as much as when using a CPU-intensive app. I'd want to see data before accepting that argument. Mar 4, 2020 at 17:17
  • @NateEldredge Except you use CPU-intensive apps routinely, so 99.9% chance it'll blow up beforehand. Doing that while also maxing the cellular radio for 5 hours continuously is a little-tested corner case. And you're right, the fire issue is probably overblown, but that reflects a) being the most terrifying threat an airplane can face, and b) the unpredictability of fire, and the considerable track record of underestimating it. Mar 4, 2020 at 17:44
  • Yeah, the more I think about it @NateEldredge, I would expect nothing less than sheer paranoia from the aviation industry about fire. The data has proven measured responses have not worked. Mar 4, 2020 at 18:21

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