I was deported from Germany in 2015 and I hired a lawyer, but he didn't inform me as to when this deportation order will end. So I tried to enter Germany in January 2018. They refused to let me enter the country and now they sent me a letter that says:

"You're not allowed to enter Schengen until 2023"

I'm quite sad and mad at my lawyer. But I'm asking you guys, is there any suggestions for what can I do to enter Schengen without any problem, maybe removing this expulsion?

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    – Mark Mayo
    May 19, 2019 at 23:49

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There is pretty much nothing you can do to change this.

A ban means exactly that - you are not allowed to enter the Schengen area until the ban is over.

There are a small number of exceptions, but to have any hope of using them you need to employ an experienced lawyer specializing in these cases. This will be very expensive and have little chance of success. The only alternative is to wait until the ban is over - but be aware that even then you may not be allowed to enter.

You should be aware that trying to enter Schengen while you have a ban will only make your case worse, and may be considered criminal.

You haven't given the reasons you were deported, or the reasons for your ban, but i doubt that it will make any difference.


A first step would be to get clear about what happened and why. I'm not a lawyer, but a deportation is distinct from a ban:

  • An Abschiebung is the deportation of a foreigner who has an Ausweisung (order to leave Germany) but did not leave on his or her own. The Abschiebung ends when the foreigner has left Germany.
  • The Ausweisung would have included a revocation of an Aufenthaltstitel (residence permit or visa), if any. It would also have included an Einreise- und Aufenthaltsverbot with information about the duration. The duration may be extended if the foreigner tries to enter Germany again.

So Germany informed you. Perhaps you failed to read or understand it; I can understand why a deportation would be an unsettling event.

  • The way you write it, all this seems to be about leaving or not re-entering Germany, while the OP appears to be banned from Schengen ... May 18, 2019 at 16:52
  • @HagenvonEitzen, I'm not sure if the OP understands all the papers he has got. He was deported from Germany and tried to re-enter it.
    – o.m.
    May 18, 2019 at 18:24

I'm sorry you find yourself in this situation, but you were banned from the Schengen zone by a member country and didn't know how long it was for? That's not on your lawyer, but on you. However, this may help.

While you are asking the question about Germany, I'm not good enough at reading german-language websites to get the German-language, specific region information, but it appears to have been widely standardized across the EU (identical across the six countries I checked). A lawyer should be able to tell you if this is correct for your circumstances.

Regarding an entry ban, return decision and pronouncement of undesirability, if your legal residence has ended or you do not have lawful residence in the Netherlands, you must leave the country. In addition, an entry ban, return decision or a pronouncement of undesirability can be imposed.

​Entry ban

An entry ban prevents you from travelling to the Netherlands, other EU/EEA countries and Switzerland. You are not allowed to be in these countries either. You get an entry ban from the IND, the Aliens Police (AVIM), Seaport Police or Royal Netherlands Marechaussee (border police).

  • 1 year: in case of an overstay of more than 3 days and up to 90 days.
  • 2 years: the standard length (for example in case of an overstay of more than 90 days).
  • 3 years: in case of a prison sentence of less than 6 months.
  • 5 years:
    • in case of a prison sentence of 6 months and more.
    • when you have made use of false or falsified documents, or documents that do not apply to you.
    • When you have previously been notified to leave the Netherlands and you have not done this (return decision).
    • entering or staying in the Netherlands during the length of an entry ban.

I assume you ended up in prison, used someone else's documents or were told to leave Germany and didn't. Now you've entered Germany during the length of an entry ban and received the automatic 5 years - the German authorities don't care if you didn't check before you broke the rules, however opening dialogue is your best bet at this point.

Regarding the normal reasons for long bans, you may be wise to put together documentation showing you're now of moral character and an upstanding citizen able to contribute usefully and who'll be a benefit to the Schengen zone while you're in it. If you can't do that, enjoy visiting Germany in 2023 when your ban expires - just don't try to do it on the 1st Jan. You should have a piece of paper telling you how long your previous entry ban was for and the date it expired, however - and if you never received this and can prove both that you never received it and that you had no way to access the information about the ban duration and entered Germany in good faith, some leeway may be granted if you get through to the right person with the right powers on the right day. After all, immigration officers are only human - well at least some of them are!

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