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I have to renew my Albanian passport.

As I understood, the new passport serial number will differ from the one in the old document.

But I'm wondering if the personal number changes too.

My logic says it doesn't, but does anyone know for sure?

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    You need to state your nationality. Passports vary significantly between countries. – MJeffryes Jan 17 at 20:58
  • @MJeffryes I'm from Albania. If I tell you my passport is a biometric one, isn't this information enough? Does the country matter? – DonJoe Jan 17 at 21:00
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    @DonJoe: According to WikiPedia (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-readable_passport), the personal number "may be used by the issuing country as it desires". So nationality will make a difference for this question. Out of curiosity, why would you like to know? – mdd Jan 17 at 21:05
  • @mdd I live in another country, but I don't have their citizenship. In there I have different accounts (banc, university) based on my passport serial. Now that my passport is expiring, I will have to go and update my credentials. But next time, I'd like to give the PID, since I guess it mustn't change, and not the passport serial. – DonJoe Jan 17 at 21:12
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    @mdd Including not using it at all. – origimbo Jan 17 at 21:13
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In section 11 on the data page of the Albanian passport (nr. personal/personal no.) you will find your 'Numri i Identitetit' or abbreviated NID. It is a registration number assigned to you as a person by the Albanian authorities and not related to the passport per se. If you get a new passport, the NID will not change.

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    Would you kindly share also the link, since I was not able to find it? – DonJoe Jan 17 at 21:14
  • @DonJoe A link to what? I don't even speak Albanian, but it took me perhaps two minutes to find what you are looking for on the English WIkipedia. – Tor-Einar Jarnbjo Jan 17 at 21:19
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    You just said It is a registration number assigned to you as a person by the Albanian authorities and *not related to the passport per se*. This is your opinion or you read it somewhere? – DonJoe Jan 17 at 21:24
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    @DonJoe It is correct; many if not most European countries have the concept of a citizen's ID number, which is what the ALbanian NID is. It never changes unless you need to get protected identity, or renounce and re-acquire citizenship – Crazydre Jan 19 at 11:14
  • @Tor-EinarJarnbjo, in that case, please include a link to the actual Wikipedia page you found it. Those pages should include sources and/or links which link to authorative sites. – Willeke Jan 19 at 11:23
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The passport number is individual to each passport; the citizen ID number is individual to each citizen, and never changes under normal circumstances.

SO the passport number will be different, but your citizen ID number the same

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Since I can't find an official answer for my nationality, from wikipedia link and from the majority of the other countries, being that the personal number is calculated using some formulae, I take that it does not change when renewing the passport.

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