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The Luohu station in Shenzhen has a taxi area where people queue to get their taxi:

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While queuing there are a few taxi drivers parked nearby who try to get customers from the queue. They claim that their taxi is metered too. Since locals typically don't take it even if the regular taxi queue is long (>30 minutes of waiting time), I think it is quite safe to assume this is a scam (= paying more than regular taxis).

However, I don't see how the scams work as typically in such scams the taxi driver would simply not use the meter and set whatever price they can milk from the customer. How does this taxi scam work? (Do they zig-zag in the city? Do they charge some ridiculous amount for baggage or other service fees? Is the meter rigged? etc.)

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It happens that I am a native of Shenzhen, and indeed we avoid those "illicit vehicles" (or "black cabs", hei che 黑车 in Chinese) at all costs.

The perceived risk is that they might demand exorbitant fees from you when you eventually arrive, or are half-way. Only God knows what will happen if you refuse to pay them anyway. It might be keeping you inside the vehicle, throwing you off in the middle of nowhere, or even kidnapping, or even worse than that.

ADDENDUM: There are actually two types of "black cabs". The first type do not conceal that they are operating extra-legally, and demand high fares (up to 5-10 times of normal cab fares) upfront. Those usually do not expose you to too much risk (of course, unless you refuse to pay after the ride), besides rudeness, dangerous driving and overloading. I have never had good experiences with those vehicles, though (the vehicles can be very sketchy and overloaded), and I recommend against them unless absolutely necessary.

The second type of "black cabs" are what you have mentioned. They claim to be metered taxis, but are in fact not. (Many of them operate using junk taxicabs which have been retired, purchased from the black market, or using modified cars with rigged meters obtained from the black market, and with fake or forged license plates.) Those are outright illegal, and are known to extort passengers for exorbitant amounts of money. If you refuse to pay, they may lock you up inside the vehicle or throw you off in middle-of-nowhere (forget about getting another taxicab); personal injury is also not unheard of. The police can't do much about it, because of the large amount of operators involved and the difficulty to track those vehicles. Avoid those at all costs; if you ever get in to one of those vehicles, you basically can do nothing but pray for the best.

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    Native Shenzhen citizen here too. I'd like to add that this kind of "black taxis" are prevalent not only near the Luohu station (Luohu Checkpoint), but also larger traffic junctions like Futian Checkpoint and Caobu Metro Station (草埔地铁站). In fact, this is pretty common in many big cities in China, notably Guangzhou. – iBug Dec 28 '18 at 15:24
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    I must play the devil's advocate and also mention that although there are a lot of scammers - some are just normal taxis that don't want to wait the long taxi line. if you know where you are going and know the price in advance it can be ok. I do it many times. Not recommended for tourists though. and like @iBug mentioned - it actually exists in all major cities in China at Airports / Train stations / High Traffic areas. – Obmerk Kronen Jul 24 at 6:44
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In addition to xuq01's great answer, here are two reports of taxi scams in Shenzhen (thanks to Valorum for the links):

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g297415-i7681-k3059531-Warning_Scam_amongst_taxi_drivers-Shenzhen_Guangdong.html (mirror) (2009-08-29, Luohu station in Shenzhen):

  • Scam description: Swapping customer's real money with fake money. Specifically, the cab driver pretended that the 100 RMB bank note the customer gave them was fake, and rerturned the 100 RMB bank note to the customer (but the returned 100 RMB bank note was a fake one)
  • Scam demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha_soNGADMY
  • Scam protection: Write down the serial number of the note the customer gives to the cab driver (or take a picture of it clear enough so that the serial number is readable).

http://www.thatsmags.com/shenzhen/post/15383/shenzhen-s-green-taxis-are-still-ripping-off-customers (mirror) (2016-09-15, Fuyong Port in Shenzhen):

  • Scam description: Rigged meter. Specifically, in the given example, "Only 8 kilometers into his ride, the meter showed close to 17 kilometers, and the fare had already passed RMB45."
  • Scam protection:

    • Use a GPS to track the route and get actual the distance.
    • Look at whether the cab driver is using some kind of remote control pad, which could be used to affect the meter device. Example of such remote control pad:

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    • "But the violators don't have too much to fear. As an officer at the scene stated, drivers are fined only RMB2,000 for having a meter device. Their licenses are not revoked for the offense, nor are their vehicles impounded."

  • Good look trying to fight the Scam with "proof" if you're the foreigner and don't speak the language. – Peter Dec 29 '18 at 16:09
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    @Peter coincidentally I've just done so a few minutes ago in Hong Kong. Got into a scam cab at Victoria peak on the way back. Issue solved successfully for me. Being informed helps. – Franck Dernoncourt Dec 29 '18 at 16:23
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    @FranckDernoncourt HK and Shenzhen may be very close but things don't work the same way. HK police generally take taxi scamming very seriously. – xuq01 Dec 30 '18 at 2:27
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    I wasn't referring to the former British colony Hong Kong. I was referring to China, a country where the police often doesn't speak English and where foreigners are of lower status when it comes to disputes. – Peter Dec 30 '18 at 8:34

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