2

I recently bought a return ticket from London Euston to Coventry but realised it stops at Watford Junction in between.

Can I just get on the same train at Watford Junction using the same ticket?

2 Answers 2

5

The answer as with everything to do with UK train tickets is not clean cut

But a simple answer is most tickets, including ones marked Anytime, off peak, super offpeak do allow for a break of journey. So in this case you could join the train at Watford, informing the gate staff that you broke your journey.

However if you hold an Advance Ticket you must travel at the time specified, and from the stated original and to the destination stations. In all likelihood you would not be allowed though the gateline at Watford .

It is possible that should you manage to get through the gateline at Watford (for example by buying a ticket to the next station Watford junction to Watford high street is £3.20!) that you might be able to join your original train (as long as it was the one originally specified on the ticket. You would be at risk however if the ticket inspector is on the ball, of it being spotted that you were not on board from the original station, assuming that the inspector conduct a check between London and Watford (in my experience this is unlikely!). The ticket inspector would be within their rights to demand full payment for a new ticket at the most expensive rate for the journey.

0

Yes, this is explicitly allowed by the National Rail Conditions of Travel:

16.3. Generally, you may start, or break and resume, a journey (in either direction in the case of a return Ticket) at any intermediate station, as long as the Ticket you hold is valid for the trains you want to use. However, this may not be the case with some through services that take an indirect route. You may also end your journey (in either direction in the case of a return Ticket) before the destination shown on the Ticket.

The exception about "through services that take an indirect route" is not relevant for your ticket.

(This exception is aimed at services that loop back to their starting point. For example, some Southeastern High Speed services go on a clockwise loop around Kent: London St. Pancras - Gravesend - Chatham - Ramsgate - Dover - Ashford - London St. Pancras. Due to the rule that a direct train is always a permitted route, one may use a "Anytime Plus High Speed" ticket from Gravesend to London St. Pancras to go all the way around on this train. But you can't use that ticket to start your journey in Dover instead).

7
  • 3
    AIUI it depends on the type of ticket. In case of an advance ticket, you "may not start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station except to change to/from connecting trains as shown on the ticket(s) or other valid travel itinerary." See nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46546.aspx
    – user108733
    Oct 5, 2018 at 22:24
  • 1
    wait mine says advance ticket.... so does that mean i can't get on at watford junction ....
    – ellen
    Oct 5, 2018 at 22:28
  • 1
    @user108733: Hmm, it does say that -- though I'm not sure that's what the actual NRCoT say. They specifically state that it is only "most tickets" that allow a break in the journey, but say that the right to start the journey at an intermediate station holds "generally". The OP would probably not want to risk arguing that to a ticket inspector with an opposite opinion, though. Oct 5, 2018 at 22:43
  • 1
    @ellen, to my understanding, you can't enter at Watford Junction. Anyone to confirm (or disprove) this?
    – user108733
    Oct 5, 2018 at 23:11
  • 1
    @user108733: If you do that, at least one of the parts Euston-Watford or Watford-Coventry would have been on a different train than the one the Advance ticket is restricted to, so the ticket would not be valid on that train. Oct 5, 2018 at 23:33

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .