I was in the UK in 2009 to participate in an event there. I went to London from 26 June until 11 September (long period) but I thought that was normal as I had a 6-month visa.

I went to South London Scout Centre and I stayed there until the start of the event on 1 August. I went to the event, stayed there for 10 day, and afterwards I rented room in London for one month.

On 11 September 2009, I was caught stealing at Sainsbury's Supermarket.

Does my 10-year ban end on the 1 January 2019, or on 11 September 2019?

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    Regardless of when your ban ends, your history will continue to have a negative impact on future visa applications. Were you sentenced for the theft? If not, on what grounds were you banned? – phoog Jul 21 '18 at 17:40
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    @phoog He might have been deported for criminal activity. His ban should end 10 years after the day he left the UK. – user58558 Jul 21 '18 at 20:19
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    The visa you came in on only permitted certain activities, typically tourism. I'm guessing you did not have a visa permitting criminal activity, or employment, which begs the question of how you supported yourself in one of the world's most expensive cities for 3 months. The facts suggest crime or employment (stealing things or jobs from Britons), and while they won't punish you for that again, they will presume that'll be your plan next time unless you show them otherwise. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Jul 21 '18 at 21:05
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    @Fethi Boukoftane Were you actually banned or are you hoping for a timeframe after which you don’t need to declare the crime in any visa application? – Traveller Jul 21 '18 at 23:16
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    Another reason in favor of staying home on September 11. Nothing good ever happens on that day. – Robert Columbia Jul 21 '18 at 23:54

As @greatone mentioned in the comments, the duration of the re-entry ban begins from the date you left the UK - in your case from 11 September 2009 or whenever you left the UK.

From uk.gov:

V 3.10 The duration of a re-entry ban is as follows: Duration of re entry ban from date they left the UK (...)


(e) 10 years - was deported from the UK or was removed from the UK

  • If OP was caught stealing on September 11, 2009 there is no chance whatsoever that he was deported or removed on that day. Furthermore, we don't know that OP was deported or removed. Maybe he left voluntarily. – phoog Jul 24 '18 at 14:44
  • @phoog you are right thats almost imposible to be deported on the same day. But as the OP mentioned himselft a 10-year-ban, I assume that he/she was deported ot removed. – Dirty-flow Jul 24 '18 at 14:46
  • I wonder whether OP hasn't assumed that he is subject to a 10-year ban. If he has paperwork informing him of the ban it should also explain how the ban is reckoned. – phoog Jul 24 '18 at 14:59

Does my 10-year ban end on the 1 January 2019, or on 11 September 2019?

No. If you have a ten-year ban, it ends at some other time, unless you were deported on the day you were caught.

There is not enough information to answer your question, but we can offer some possibilities.

  • If you were deported or removed from the UK, you have a 10-year ban from the date of the deportation or removal, as noted in Dirty-flow's answer.

  • If you received a prison sentence that was at least 12 months long, but shorter than 4 years, you have a 10-year ban from the end of the sentence. So, for example, if you were sentenced to a 47-month sentence beginning in 2010, and left the UK voluntarily after the end of the sentence, your ban ends in late 2023.

In both of these cases, the beginning of the ban will have been sometime after September 11, 2009, so in neither case will it be January 1, 2019 nor September 11, 2019.

If neither of those cases applies, you have a ban with a different duration. For example, if your sentence was 4 years or longer, you have a permanent ban. If your sentence was less than 12 months, you have a 5-year ban. If you were removed "as a condition of a caution [under] the Criminal Justice Act 2003," you also have a 5-year ban.

The details are in Appendix V of the visitor rules.

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