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I was deported from and banned for life from the USA. I have been traveling through South America seeing different countries. I'm currently living in Peru and want to travel to Europe. One way to travel would be flying through US airspace, to Canada.

My main question is: can I pass through US airspace on my way to Canada as part of a flight to Germany?

Are there are other alternatives to travel from Peru to Europe while avoiding North America all together?

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The airline will collect Secure Flight information when checking you in, but there is no restriction preventing you from flying over US airspace just because you're inadmissible to the US.

So you'll be fine - you just need the documents for transiting Canada and entering Germany.

  • Interesting claim that Air Canada or LATAM or whatever would collect Secure Flight information on a flight that doesn't land in the US. I almost challenged you to provide a source, but my gosh, a little Googling says you're right, so you've got my upvote instead! I never would have guessed. – jackal Jan 31 at 7:53
  • @jackal Russia does that too AFAIK – Crazydre Jan 31 at 8:06
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Flying over USA airspace is not a problem. What is a problem is that Canada, like the USA but unlike many other countries, requires you to have a transit visa in advance. Peru is not on the list of visa-exempt countries. The Canadian authorities may know that you were deported and banned from the United States, and if so, I think your chances of getting the Canadian visa are reduced. You should apply in advance, and as other answers mention, you should be prepared to book instead through airports where you will not have this problem.

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    And, even if your country were on the list of visa-exempt countries, you'd still need to get an eTA (similar to the US ESTA) before transiting Canada unless you're a U.S. citizen or fall under a few other minor exemptions. – reirab Mar 26 '18 at 21:06
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    Is a transit visa required (or easier to get) if you never actually enter Canada? Depends of course on whether the airport layout allows for that. – Stop Harming Monica Mar 28 '18 at 11:10
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You cannot land in the US (does not matter if it is only a transit). However, I am not seeing any issues with getting a flight to Canada. You need to have in the mind that you will need to land in Canada. So, maybe, you will need a Visa+ for that.

Could you go to Europe avoiding US or Canada?

Yes, you can... You could go to Brazil and get a flight to Portugal, for example.

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    yeah I read online that you can't stop at USA i don't want to stop i just want to fly pass, on my way to Canada. – peruviantraveler Mar 26 '18 at 14:49
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    yeah but for some reason the booking places just keep throwing USA my way, i really just want to avoid it all together. – peruviantraveler Mar 26 '18 at 14:51
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    @peruviantraveler "for some reason the booking places just keep throwing USA my way": try excluding US airlines from your search, or limiting your search to Latin American and Canadian airlines. Also look for a way of eliminating codeshare flights. – phoog Mar 26 '18 at 15:04
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    There are non stop flights from Lima to at least Amsterdam, London, Paris, Madrid and Barcelona. If you allow a single connection, you can probably get to every major European city without having to cross the US. – Hilmar Mar 26 '18 at 16:25
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    This new "buy it online on booking engines" tomfoolery is not the only way... Try buying a ticket the old fashioned way, through a travel agent. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Mar 26 '18 at 20:00
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Personally I would fly direct from Guatemala to Madrid. Or From San Pedro Sula to Barcelona. Or from Panama to Amsterdam. I'm from the UK and can fly to the US without a visa, but due to bad mannered people in the US airports I now avoid flying through the US whenever possible. I'd rather invest my money in countries who treat me nicely. On the Spanish route I have never had any hassle from anyone. It's worth the extra cost.

Airlines you want to look at include KLM, Iberia, Air Europa, British Airways.

I've never had any difficulties in Canada and the people are friendly, but they can be quite strict and it adds an extra complication to your trip. As far as airspace is concerned it doesn't matter about the US at all. The Canadians have a deal with the US to manage those flights. Probably easiest to avoid US and Canada

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    Much of this answer seems to consist of personal opinions and anecdotes that are of no relevance to the question at hand. – Mico Mar 28 '18 at 10:18
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    @Mico OP explicitly asked for alternatives to a route over or through North American countries. John M's stated reason for knowing these alternatives adds credibility, even though no sources are cited. The reasons may not be relevant, but they explain a perfectly valid other reason why someone wouldn't want to travel there. – I'm with Monica Mar 28 '18 at 10:48
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    @AlexanderKosubek - Please re-read my comment. I would have thought that it was clear that my comment wasn't directed at the advice that the OP should look at the offerings of KLM, Iberia, etc. Instead, it was directed at JohnM's comments about how he [she?] feels about the treatment allegedly received at some US airports. That's what I believe falls in the category of "personal opinion and anecdote". I fail to see how personal, likely heart-felt but also utterly unverifiable, anecdotes make a positive contribution to the OP's understanding of his/her travel options. – Mico Mar 28 '18 at 12:04
  • Why not fly KLM straight from Peru to Amsterdam, or Iberia to Madrid? Why does everyone suggest going to another South American country first? – jjrv Mar 28 '18 at 15:58
  • @Mico I'm sorry for the harshness of my comment, you are correct in your original assessment. I've upvoted your comment, but I'll still let mine stand, as others might jump to the same conclusion I did - that you were criticizing the post as a whole, insead of the opinionated and anecdotal reasons for it. – I'm with Monica Mar 29 '18 at 14:08

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