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Oct 25, 2013 at 2:26 comment added hippietrail Yep I think it's a really good question now. I think the closest since you don't want places that also have food would be the "hole in the wall bars" in places like Shibuya. They can be super tiny with maybe a row of ten seats and one or two people between the bar and a shelf full of bottles. It might be awkward to go alone - I always went with a Shibuya native.
Oct 24, 2013 at 10:57 comment added Golden Cuy @hippietrail I've edited the question, how is it now?
Oct 23, 2013 at 15:18 comment added hippietrail @AndrewGrimm: OK but you should clarify that in the question. Instead of only using the words "pub", "bar", and "izakaya" tell us what attributes of the former you're looking for and which attributes of the latter you don't like, not everybody that could answer has been to a pub in Britain, and those are very different from Australian pubs and even more different to American bars. Izakayas are fun if you make friends with a middle aged local male and he takes you there. Also it's very true what uncovery said that many bars have themes but are not like crappy Irish pubs you buy as a kit, etc.
Oct 23, 2013 at 12:15 comment added Golden Cuy @hippietrail something that was similar to British style pubs, but didn't go out of the way to be British-themed as a novelty, would be a pub.
Oct 23, 2013 at 11:36 comment added lambshaanxy But then he ruled out izakayas, which is the closest Japanese equivalent. Hence my puzzlement.
Oct 23, 2013 at 9:40 comment added Relaxed Wouldn't pub generally be synonym with “drinking establishment” in many English idioms? Andrew did write “pubs or bars”, which sound pretty broad…
Oct 23, 2013 at 9:17 comment added hippietrail Wikipedia's definitions are terribly patchy and not to be trusted, but your observation that he needs to tell us what he means by "pub" since he's specifically ruled out both British style ones and Japanese style ones (izakayas)!
Oct 23, 2013 at 0:26 history answered lambshaanxy CC BY-SA 3.0