Timeline for Can my 10 year ban be overridden by my new Canadian citizenship?
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| Oct 2, 2022 at 15:15 | comment | added | MJeffryes | @Crazymoomin Yes, good point. In fact (at least in the UK) it's illegal for the airline to pass on the cost of the fine to the passenger, but of course they will try and pass on the cost of the flight to them. | |
| Sep 28, 2022 at 21:45 | comment | added | Crazymoomin | @MJeffryes I believe the airline can bill the passenger for the cost of the ticket, but of course they can refuse to pay and there's little the airline can do except blacklist the passenger. | |
| Sep 27, 2022 at 23:22 | comment | added | Traveller | @jcaron The OP is actually eligible to apply for a visa despite their Canadian citizenship, due to the previous ban. UK government advice states ”You may want to apply for a Standard Visitor visa if you have a criminal record or you’ve previously been refused entry into the UK.” So the OP could wait out the remaining 5 years and then apply. | |
| Sep 27, 2022 at 9:35 | comment | added | phoog | @nanoman further to MJeffryes' comment, note that many countries also deny entry to people who have been convicted of serious crimes, yet airlines do not interrogate their passengers about their criminal history, nor do they perform criminal background checks. The fines that airlines face are generally based on what an airline should be expected to know about (namely whether the passenger has the right documents), not on every possible reason for refusal of admission. | |
| Sep 26, 2022 at 9:02 | comment | added | MJeffryes | @nanoman Fines only apply in cases where the airline brings someone with documentation which is inadequate for entry. They do not apply in cases where the documentation is fine, but the UK decides to deny entry. Even in a case where there is an entry ban in place, obviously the airline can't be expected to know that. However, I think they may still be required to return the passenger to their origin at their own expense in the case entry is refused, but this applies to any passenger. It's a cost of doing business as an airline. | |
| Sep 26, 2022 at 4:32 | comment | added | nanoman | "There is still a significant risk of denial of entry" -- so this also seems to be an interesting case where an airline might unknowingly be at financial risk in transporting OP to the UK, and would have no possible way to anticipate or mitigate this risk, because all they see is the Canadian passport. Is this risk real, or would the airline be excused from fines because the passport would normally be sufficient for entry? Is it correct that the airline has no way of knowing about the ban? Is this a rare enough scenario that airlines accept it as a cost of doing business? | |
| Sep 26, 2022 at 0:19 | comment | added | user4188 | Just showing up even if getting admitted leads to some serious hassle. travel.stackexchange.com/q/87121/4188 | |
| Sep 25, 2022 at 22:44 | comment | added | Kevin | @JonathanReez: A lawyer would proceed as described in this answer, assuming OP can persuade them to take the case in the first place. | |
| Sep 25, 2022 at 19:16 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | @jcaron and usually lawyers help you by filing an iron clad Entry Clearance application. What is a lawyer supposed to do in this particular case? I feel like we could give a better advice to OP. | |
| Sep 25, 2022 at 19:08 | comment | added | DJClayworth | Just because you successfully got into the UK one way doesn't mean you will always get in. I would tend towards sorting this out with lawyers rather than taking my chances every time I visited. | |
| Sep 25, 2022 at 19:08 | comment | added | jcaron | The tricky thing in this situation is that the usual advice for people who are at risk of refusal at entry is to apply for a visa to have a clearer idea of where they stand, but here they cannot… Consulting an immigration lawyer is probably the best advice. | |
| Sep 25, 2022 at 19:01 | comment | added | JonathanReez♦ | OP can also try entering the UK via the Eurostar where a denial of entry would simply mean walking out the station rather than having to wait in detention until your flight home. | |
| Sep 25, 2022 at 14:54 | history | answered | xngtng | CC BY-SA 4.0 |