Timeline for Power Adapter for Traveling to Scotland (I live in the US)
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| Jun 18, 2020 at 18:46 | history | edited | smci | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Oct 17, 2019 at 17:07 | comment | added | smci | @Harper: and I never asserted that "product safety doesn't even exist", you keep wilfully misrepresenting me, that's abuse of SO rules, I'm warning you to stop. I keep pointing out that putting a third-party plastic duckhead on a genuine Apple power adapter is not the strawman scenario you keep pretending it is. It's not like I bought my actual power adapter itself from a no-name outfit with no certification. I think you don't understand what a 'duckhead' is, do you? It's only the tiny connector part. There are no power electronics in it whatsoever. Do you understand that? | |
| Oct 17, 2019 at 17:03 | comment | added | smci | @Harper: stop with the misplaced attacks about certification. You don't know what I actually think, you didn't even bother to ask before making wild assumptions, and you are conflating separate issues into a false dichotomy: either we each must be for dangerous unsafe or counterfeits devices, or we must be for spurious trademark lawsuits all the way to strongarm competitors - and no middle ground. Clearly a sensible solution should be in the middle. Meanwhile, all of us in the real world have a de-facto dichotomy between eBay or Apple Store(/Amazon). | |
| Oct 17, 2019 at 16:53 | comment | added | Harper - Reinstate Monica | In fact, both CCC and CE marks are sure to be counterfeit given your mail order sourcing. The problem with your posting is not only do you care absolutely not at all about product safety, you are positively gleeful about disregarding it, and then, in these comments, you have the audacity to assert that product safety doesn't even exist, plastic is plastic, and all disagrement with your position is Apple apologism. Consider what you are saying. | |
| Oct 17, 2019 at 16:45 | comment | added | Harper - Reinstate Monica | As far as "device nationalism", there is a common misconception between "brand loyalty" and "certified as safe". Take Square D breaker panels. An Eaton BR, GE QH, or Siemens QT will "fit" but is not safe. People misinterpret my warning as brand loyalty; as if I'm saying you should only use Square D, like a cleerleader. NO! I will gleefully recommend an Eaton CL, Eaton CHQ or Siemens QD because those types are designed for Square D panels, and a competent testing lab has tested them to extremes in Square D panels, and certified them as safe. Square D does not approve, natch. | |
| Oct 17, 2019 at 16:41 | comment | added | smci | @Harper: well if your recurring point is "CCC certification is near-worthless, and nowhere near the standard of CE certification" then please say that clearly. Your comment can still be read as a criticism and encouragement to downvote, which seems unreasonable in the specific context I give. | |
| Oct 17, 2019 at 16:32 | comment | added | Harper - Reinstate Monica | Sorry, I missed the earlier. If you are mad at me I very much apologize! I never downvoted your post but have not upvoted either. This is my standard treatment for posts where I disagree but respect the arguments. I concur a DV for that reason would be unfair. I have no idea why my comments were deleted (don't recall doing it). | |
| Oct 17, 2019 at 15:47 | comment | added | smci | @Harper: your previous comments were deleted. An Apple duckhead is literally a piece of plastic, explain if you can how certification is specifically relevant to that, for anything other than preserving Apple's profit margins. I'm still not seeing any valid point from you, and we've asked you several times already. | |
| Sep 29, 2019 at 23:58 | comment | added | smci | @HenningMakholm: I said nothing at all about certification, so if that's why he downvoted, that's unreasonable. I'm not into "device nationalism"... | |
| Sep 29, 2019 at 23:48 | comment | added | hmakholm left over Monica | @smci: If I recall correctly, I've seen Harper denounce the CE mark as a sign of particularly low quality. I think he's trying to criticize you for recommending CE-marked adapters, which he considers crap. | |
| Sep 29, 2019 at 23:07 | history | edited | smci | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 29, 2019 at 22:51 | comment | added | smci | @Harper: you seem to have first upvoted this then downvoted it. Why? If you have a valid criticism then say so. I didn't say "buy stuff that isn't CCC/CE certified". I did point out Apple enjoys an obscene margin on its own-brand stuff. | |
| Sep 29, 2019 at 21:04 | history | edited | smci | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 29, 2019 at 20:56 | history | edited | smci | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 29, 2019 at 20:52 | comment | added | Harper - Reinstate Monica | This answer brought to you by the "CE" and "CCC" certification marks... | |
| Sep 29, 2019 at 20:37 | history | edited | smci | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Sep 29, 2019 at 20:25 | history | answered | smci | CC BY-SA 4.0 |