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In a Facebook thread about Amtrak trains I saw a user comment complaining about Amtraks cattle call seating policy.

What is this?

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This isn't a travel-specific term, it's an English colloquialism. I suggest migrating to English Language & Usage (Google doesn't seem to make it easy to find a definition). –  Gilles Jan 25 '13 at 22:34
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@Gilles can you give some examples of non-travel related usage of this term? –  gerrit Jan 25 '13 at 22:35
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On second inspection you're right, I'd misread one Google result. The only occurrences on Google of the exact phrase "cattle call seating policy" are about Southwest Airlines. "cattle call" "seating policy" does return the occasional non-airline uses (e.g. 1). So ok, this is still primarily a travel term. –  Gilles Jan 25 '13 at 22:42
    
This has been the case on budget airlines in the UK for some time, although they seem to be changing now, realising they can make money from taking seat reservations. –  Rory Alsop Jan 26 '13 at 0:00
    
@Gilles: While "cattle call seating policy" is travel specific, "cattle call" is not. –  Loren Pechtel Feb 13 '13 at 3:40
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This is a US term meaning that seats are not pre-booked but grabbed on a first-come first-served basis.

The term originated with Southwest Airlines, which was the first airline to eschew seat assignments at booking or confirmation time (or at least the first well-known airline in the US). Here's an early use of the term from 2001:

The "cattle-call" seating policy on Southwest has its downside, which is competition with your fellow-passengers for an early boarding pass. By now, most people are familiar with Southwest's policy for seat assignments -- they don't have any. You just walk on board the plane and pick the seat you want as long as it isn't taken. The first person to check in gets a boarding pass with a "1" on it, the second person a "2," and so on.

In other words, passengers choose their own seat, and they get to choose in a first-come, first-served basis.

After a few years, Southwest changed their policy to allow passengers to reserve a seat in advance, for a fee.

Southwest Airlines to eliminate seating 'cattle call'

Starting in early November, customers of Southwest Airlines Co. will be assigned a letter-number combination on their boarding passes, which will reserve their spot in their boarding group. According to a Southwest statement, when a gate agent calls a boarding group, passengers will take their place in their numerical order.

However the term “cattle-call seating policy” has remained in use even Southwest no longer practiced the “cattle call at the gate” approach where everyone in the terminal would scramble to be first in line. The cattle call changed to a scramble to be the first to check in online¹ to get a higher boarding priority.

Today the term is used to mean a first-come, first-served seat assignment policy, i.e. no booked seats. It is occasionally used outside air travel, e.g. about cinemas:

And once all the reserved seats are gone it’s back to general admission otherwise known as the cinema cattle call.

¹ Which is the case on most airlines anyway.

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The "cattle call" means that boarding is done en masse, rather than by cabin or seating zone.

In other words, there is a single boarding announcement, at which all passengers on the train will attempt to board. This contrasts with a boarding process which might board business class first, then frequent travelers, then people seated in certain cars.

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I don't think that's what it means. From context, it seems to mean that there are no assigned seats (so that people who board first grab the choice seats, rather than people who book first). –  Gilles Jan 25 '13 at 22:45
    
Sorry, that is not correct. The "cattle call" refers to the grab any seat boarding process ;) –  user1712 Jan 25 '13 at 22:53
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If the thread in fact refers to seating and not boarding, then it's a different use of "cattle call." See e.g. sfgate.com/business/article/… –  choster Jan 25 '13 at 23:05
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